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To: markomalley
"The Bible says homosexuality is morally ac­ceptable; it is a lifestyle as viable as any "traditional" concept of marriage or family.

Where does it say that?

The Bible says once someone accepts Christ, he can never lose his salvation. All true Christians have eternal security.

Where does it say that?

The Bible says long ago God predestined some men and women to everlasting life, and some to ever­lasting judgment. We are not free to accept or reject His salvation. The Bible says God Himself does not know who will choose Him. Salvation is a matter of free will. The decision is entirely up to us.

Where does it say God predestined some to everlasting judgment? Assuming the writer means bad judgment, (some of us will be judged with rewards) the only ones I know of would be the fallen angels and Satan himself.

The Bible says Jesus Christ is the eternal Son of God the Father, sharing fully in His divinity, and indivisibly united with the Holy Trinity. The Bible says Jesus Christ is a created being. He is superior to the angels, but not eternal and not of the same nature as the Father. The Bible says we should no longer use the terms "Father" and "Son" in relation to God. They are merely symbolic and were meant to be replaced with less sexist terminology

The writer needs to tell us where he is finding these things in the Word. They sound convoluted to me as if he is picking a phrase here and there with the result being total confusion.

6 posted on 06/11/2007 8:06:41 AM PDT by Ping-Pong
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To: Ping-Pong; Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
The writer needs to tell us where he is finding these things in the Word.

The writer is using these sentences as an introduction to make an initial point.

They sound convoluted to me as if he is picking a phrase here and there with the result being total confusion.

They're supposed to. The author isn't specifically saying he agrees with any of those points. His point is to mimic the cacophony between the multitude of groups that claim the Bible as their sole authority, but then draw completely divergent conclusions, resulting in utter confusion.

7 posted on 06/11/2007 8:14:14 AM PDT by GCC Catholic (Pray for your priests and seminarians...)
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To: Ping-Pong

I believe the author’s point is to identify many obvious abuses that have been attributed to defective reading of scripture.

This is not to say that the author of the article agrees with any of the abuses (or to say that I, as the person posting the article do, either)

However, there are sects that claim “eternal security.” There are sects that claim that the sin of Sodom was a lack of hospitality. There are sects that take the Arian view of the Godhead as the correct view. All of these sects can point back to a verse in scripture to justify their beliefs.

It reminds me of a funny line I one time heard from a (Protestant) preacher. He related a story where an atheist used scripture to justify his beliefs. This atheist stated that the scriptures came right out and said “there is no God.” (Of course, that phrase was taken slightly out of context. I’ll let you do the search on Blue Letter Bible yourself to see what the context is)

We believe that Tradition helps clarify scripture. We believe that Tradition (and in my case as a Latin, the Magesterium — the article was written by an Antiochan Orthodox, not a Latin) helps keep our understanding of what scripture is telling us accurate to what was revealed to the apostles and keeps us from going out in left field.

Consider 2 Pe 1:20. “private” is actually the word ‘idios’ — one’s own. The interpretation that is not ‘one’s own’ is the interpretation provided through the light of the magesterium...at least that’s the way we interpret scripture.

We believe that authentic Tradition and the Scriptures work hand-in-hand to give us the authentic, rightly-divided Word of God.

I know, your mileage may vary on this one. But that’s the way we see it.


14 posted on 06/11/2007 8:52:20 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus CINO-RINO GRAZIE NO)
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To: Ping-Pong
The writer needs to tell us where he is finding these things in the Word. They sound convoluted to me as if he is picking a phrase here and there with the result being total confusion.

Certainly they are convoluted...But I'll bet you'd be hard pressed to find the average Catholic that would know there is noting in the scripture that would lead one to beieve these statements are credible...

16 posted on 06/11/2007 9:52:23 AM PDT by Iscool (OK, I'm Back...Now what were your other two wishes???)
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