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To: MHGinTN; Alamo-Girl
LOL! Catching up are you? Well I shall patiently await the outcome!!!

To complicate (or simplify?) things further, I'd like to assert that not only is the Logos of God the Ratio (the standard of judgment that reason must submit to), but it is also the Radix (the root of human reason itself).

716 posted on 06/16/2007 12:23:14 PM PDT by betty boop ("Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- A. Einstein)
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To: betty boop
This is getting too 'abstract' for my simple mind. as a stauch pro-lifer, I hold that the very act of cell division (first act of mitosis) proves the will of at least one new soul is present and alive, whether this occurs in a petri dish or a fallopian tube (or elsewhere, as in the woman who gave life support to her baby attached to her liver!).

If someone wants to discuss when the human spirit is first present with the human soul, well, that's a different kettle of fish. Mormons apparently believe the spirit isn't with the soul/body at implantation embryo stage since men like Orrin Hatch contend there is no human being yet if the alive embryo is in a petri dsh and there is only a human being when implantation occurs in a human female's womb. One wonders what Orrin will babble when shown the evidences of alive human embryos allready attached to extra-corporeal uterine tissue as in the experiemnts already carried out at Harvard. But that too is a different kettle of fish.

717 posted on 06/16/2007 12:43:12 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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To: betty boop
I'd like to assert that not only is the Logos of God the Ratio (the standard of judgment that reason must submit to), but it is also the Radix (the root of human reason itself).

Indeed. It is all "about" Jesus - branch and root.

754 posted on 06/16/2007 8:01:51 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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