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To: OLD REGGIE
Yes. I have two comments to make.

I think this post was at least indelicately phrased.

However, and this is important, Absurdity is not a term of mockery or abuse. It is descriptive of a kind of logical development. So when I read this statement, while I winced, I saw neither mockery nor abuse, but a comment on the appearance to a Catholic of the "System" of Protestant thought. Consequently I don't think it is relevant to my remark. By mockery I would refer mostly to things like (until I learned what he meant by it) "magicsterium", or allegations that priests ware doing some kind of shape shifting transporting so as to, if the allegations are true - which they ain't even close to - be Christ. I would refer to some occasions of saying that a statement somebody made is laughable. "Guffaws to the Max" sure looked like mockery to me.

But to say something is absurd is, IMHO to comment on the logical structure of the system and especially on its relationship to the roots of the system or the way it seems to lead necessarily to a contradiction. Reductio ad absurdum is a technique of proof not necessarily of abuse.

134 posted on 06/11/2007 2:48:13 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg
But to say something is absurd is, IMHO to comment on the logical structure of the system and especially on its relationship to the roots of the system or the way it seems to lead necessarily to a contradiction. Reductio ad absurdum is a technique of proof not necessarily of abuse.

Yes & no, imho.

That example was mocking and ridicule . . . every hour, day, week? What? Certainly mocking and ridicule. Not outrageously--if that matters. I found it quite acceptable in vigorous discourse. I love wit and find satire and ridicule used often enough in the New and Old Testaments.

The problem would come for the respondent to use some similar level of mocking and ridicule in response and THEN for the RC person writing the above to get all haughty about mockery and ridicule in some off the wall sanctimonious way. That's ABSURD and worthy a huge assault of some kind! imho. But that's precisely what's happened to me plenty of times.

I think if folks flaunt their thin skins, shoulder chips and brittleness overmuch . . . we shall all be reduced to a horrendous worsening of "PC" . . . maybe "TC" . . . Theological Correctness . . . whereby we can only say:

G'Day, Mate. I'm a Protie.

G'Day, I'm an RC.

Bless you, G'Day.

Bless you, G'Day.

Only satan would win then, for sure.

Robust dialogue within some reasonable limits should be OK--even encouraged. Thin-skinned wailing and whining out of FEAR'S AND INSECURITIES SHOULD NOT BE ENCOURAGED FOR ANY REASON.

Fears and insecurities need to go to The Cross; Under The Blood. We must grow beyond such. Love helps.

But the whining generated by fears and insecurities should not be defended, applauded, rationalized or excused. It is deadly to the individual doing it and to healthy, robust discourse.

147 posted on 06/11/2007 9:01:27 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Mad Dawg
And I think it was an example of an addiction to making unsubstantiated mockery of Protestantism especially when it is completely untrue in most cases. :-)
161 posted on 06/12/2007 8:07:16 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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