Thank God For the Magisterium

NCR ^ | June 10, 2007 | Mark Shea

[Quix]

Following St Paul’s exhortations in I Cor 12-14 . . .

I don’t have anything per se against Divine Revelation.

But it has to be treated appropriately AND STAND THE TEST OF SCRIPTURE AND OF TIME AND OF FRUIT.

And mistakes can still be made.

Trouble is, magicstericals are loathe to admit EVER making the least bit of a mistake.

[Quix]

That Scripture is such a STARK contrast to me

vs

all the adoration, veneration etc. etc. etc.

And I have yet to read the least bit of a convincing Scriptural argument to the contrary.

[Quix]

One’s petulant insistence that all see it the same is pathetic and sad, nothing more.

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INDEED . . . quite true . . .

about the collective flaws of the magicstericals in all denominations.

[Quix]

I am not bound by [anyone’s] flawed interpretation of anything (thank God).

INDEED.

[Quix]

I haven’t found

sola Petronski’s magicserical

in Scripture, either.

What a surprise.

[Quix]

Loving His mother and giving or allowing

a place for her

that HE nor The Father

never intended

are two VERY different constructs on reality.

[Quix]

Actually,

I think it’s the tone and ALL INCLUSIVE, ABSOLUTEST STATEMENTS

of some posters which deteriorate such a thread.

[Petronski]

Actually, I think it’s the tone and ALL INCLUSIVE, ABSOLUTEST STATEMENTS of some posters which deteriorate such a thread.

My theory exactly. I beg you to reform.

[Petronski]

I haven’t found sola Petronski’s magicserical in Scripture, either. What a surprise.

This is my point exactly. I never claimed sola anything, nor have I insisted that you are wrong for disagreeing with the teachings of the Magisterium of the Roman Catholic Church.

Can you honestly say the same?

[Petronski]

...magicstericals...

Merci beaucoup encore!

[Petronski]

...magicstericals...

My cup of insults runneth over!

[Petronski]

An unnecessary personal dig just doesn’t edify me much.

LOLROFLMAO

[Quix]

What a shame that this thread has taken this turn.

I have found that it is inevitable once a Catholic dares refuse to accept the personal interpretation of scripture handed down (as if from above) from a Protestant.

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I have found that it is seemingly inevitable once a Proty dares refuse to accept the collective flaws of the RC Magicsterical's interpretation of Scripture; being functionally equal to Scripture as if handed down from MT Sinai.

[Petronski]

I cannot locate the point when your acceptance was demanded.

[Quix]

Who do you trust to interpret it for you? In whom have you entrusted the fate of your eternal soul? What man or organization of men have you ceded your personal responsibility to?

Excellent questions and points. No magicstericals willl be serving as atny's at The Judgment. Nor will Mary, for that matter.

[Quix]

But Scripture tells us He didn’t love His mother any more than He loves you and me.
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And, on that point, a LOT comes crashing down . . .

because on that point, their magicsterical AND traditions of men

trump Scripture.

Yet, we are to pretend otherwise else be accused of hate speech.

Sigh.

[Petronski]

Thanky thanky!

magicstericals

[Alamo-Girl]

And, I have been rightly taught all my life that ANYTHING between me and God is functionally . . . an idol. That could be a pastor; a religious habit; a pet doctrine; a ritual; an image; an organization . . . anything.

Indeed. I assert that our most common idols are people. Some love themselves more than God, or perhaps their child, or spouse, lover, mom or dad, etc.

[Quix]

it is perfectly possible

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Quite a LOT of edifice, structure, tradition, ritual,

RISK . . . eternal RISK

built up on . . .

rather flimsy foundation . . .

“possible”

I’ll take the certainty of Scripture, thank you.

[Quix]

But truly, that attitude and stance

rather functionally obliterates the Scripture where

CHRIST HIMSELF EVIDENTLY DECLINES TO GO TO HIS MOTHER AND BROTHERS WHEN INFORMED THEY ARE WAITING ON HIM . . . AND SAYS INSTEAD . . .

WHO ARE MY MOTHER, BROTHERS—THOSE WHO HEAR AND OBEY—essentially.

Side-stepping the tone, meaning, structure, context, import of that Scripture to support the comforting fantasies related to Mary is at least very spiritually hazardous if not abjectly foolhardy.

imho.