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To: trisham
I would think it would be difficult to get past this point if one were to try to deny transubstantiation.

If you are going to argue for transub, then it will be just as difficult to deny that anyone that has ever taken the Cathlic Eucharist is saved (see my post #111).
137 posted on 06/11/2007 6:12:08 AM PDT by armydoc
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To: armydoc
“”If you are going to argue for transub, then it will be just as difficult to deny that anyone that has ever taken the Cathlic Eucharist is saved (see my post #111).””

You,re forgetting a few things Dear Friend

(1 Corinthians 11-27-30)

“”Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord. A person should examine himself, and so eat the bread and drink the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself.That is why many among you are ill and infirm, and a considerable number are dying.””

And listen to what Saint Cyprian says...

“The Apostle likewise bears witness and says; ‘You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of devils. You cannot be a communicant of the table of the Lord and of the table of devils’ [1 Cor 10:21]. And again he threatens the stubborn and perverse and denounces them, saying: ‘Whoever eats the bread or drinks the Cup of the Lord unworthily, will be guilty of the Body and Blood of the Lord’ [1 Cor 11:27]. But they spurn and despise all these warnings; and before their sins are expiated, before they have made a confession of their crime, before their conscience has been purged in the ceremony and at the hand of the priest [sacrificio et manu sacerdotis], before the offense against an angry and threatening Lord has been appeased, they do VIOLENCE TO HIS BODY AND BLOOD; and with their hands and mouth they SIN AGAINST THE LORD more than when they denied Him.” (Cyprian, The Lapsed 15,16)

I wish you a Blessed day!

163 posted on 06/11/2007 9:57:07 AM PDT by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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