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To: Dr. Eckleburg
God, however, chose not to inspire men to write every single thing that Christ did or said. So what? From everything we know He did and said we are sufficiently equipped to live a God-glorifying, obedient, joyful life.

You quoted 2 Tim. 3:16-17 and asked what more is there. I responded by providing John 21:25.

"And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen." -- John 21:25

I think that verse implies that there is a lot more. Coupled with Christ's apparent preference for an oral presentation of His gospel, and the promise of the Paraclete as a guide to truth, it is safe to assume that what was eventually recorded in a written form might not necessarily contain everything that Our Lord taught.

This fact also does not permit us to make things up which is what the church in Rome does. It makes things up.

Your alleged fact, "From everything we know He did and said we are sufficiently equipped to live a God-glorifying, obedient, joyful life", does not support the conjecture that the RCC makes things up.

"A great aid?" Why do you think Scripture is a "great aid?"

I am paraphrasing Paul. He calls scripture helpful, profitable, etc.

Scripture is God-breathed.

I agree.

Scripture is the primary means by which God ordained the Holy Spirit to reach His children.

Disagree. In that Christ told his apostles to go out and preach amongst the nations, it can be deduced that He preferred personal contact and personal witness over scripture. The same principle would apply to baptism. In fact, one could probably argue that the entire sacramental system was and is the primary means.

Christ spoke by Scripture. Christ was Scripture, the word of God made flesh.

I probably disagree, depending on exactly what you mean by "word".

923 posted on 06/08/2007 12:13:34 AM PDT by LordBridey
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John 21:25...I think that verse implies that there is a lot more.

And yet we'll never know because it is not recorded in Scripture. Obviously, God revealed exactly what He wanted to reveal to us through Scripture about Christ's life, death and resurrection. Certainly enough to be "thoroughly furnished unto all good works."

Your fanciful presumption about knowing what "more" Christ said and did is dangerous. It's on the level of the Da Vinci Code's speculation that Christ married and had children. Men can and do make up anything they want to make up when the intention is to deceive.

Coupled with Christ's apparent preference for an oral presentation of His gospel

LOLOL. Even when presented with the hard facts that Christ disdained oral tradition by referring to it with only scorn, and instead referenced the written Scriptures over 100 times in His ministry, you still maintain this fiction.

For a moment be like Martin Luther. Go back to the Bible and read it. It's all there. In its pages you, too, can find where the word of God refutes the practices of the RCC. When the Bible and men differ, choose the Bible.

May the Holy Spirit give you eyes to see and ears to hear.

DR.E: Christ spoke by Scripture. Christ was Scripture, the word of God made flesh.

LORD BRIDEY: I probably disagree, depending on exactly what you mean by "word".

Well, if you were read more Scripture you'd know exactly what I mean by "word" because I'm simply quoting John...

"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." -- John 1:14

972 posted on 06/08/2007 10:15:07 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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