Show me that in scripture. If He was giving her to the church, he would have given her to the Pope right ?:)
He placed His mothers physically in the care of His beloved John. Jesus was the oldest son and therefore the one responsible for a widowed mother, He passed on that responsibility.
Show me where and how that can be read as she was "given to us"
Entire households baptized included in
Please post the scripture that tells us that infants were baptized ? Peter said REPENT and be baptized, was He in ERROR on a doctrine?
Apostolic succession began even with the replacement of Judas, and certainly upon the death of Peter.
Please show us the scripture where Christ told His apostles that they could or SHOULD pass on the gifts given for the evangelization and the founding of the church. Remember that after His resurrection God Himself picked the replacement for Judas .So please show us from where the church derives the right to make new apostles. Jesus said make disciples, not apostles.
Purgatory as process rather than place is entirely justified.
So there is no LITERAL purgatory? When did the church start teaching that ? What is the process? Where is that process found in scripture?
Nice that you speak for God, and of what He approves and of what He disapproves. Since you’re so close, can you tell us what He’s having for lunch today?
I have asked the biblical roots or confirmation of these practices and all I get is a reaffirmation of of the beliefs without any biblical substance to affirm that these are not simply the traditions of men
I look for conformation from the KNOWN truth ,and I do not see any confirmation there.
So if you could just show us where Jesus told the apostles they had the right, ability and approval to pass on the foundational gifts please share it with me.
If you have a scripture that confirms the presence of purgatory please share it with us
If you have a scripture that tells us that mary is also a mediator between God and man please share it with us. Because if you can not it places in serious doubt all those kinds of catholic practices.
Thanks
Ease up ears! You forget that anything not in the Bible comes directly from the unbiased, reliable source of the Magicanus.
I assume that you have been on the recent threads about Mary and have not been convinced. The Biblical quotations have been produced. If you will not be convinced from the Bible or the Church that produced it, what will?
Like everything else in the Catholic Church, its authority derives from Christ. Christ taught with the authority of the Father (Jn 5:22, Mt 28:18-20). Christ gave that authority to the Apostles (Lk 10:16). And the Apostles passed it on to those whom they selected and ordained as their successors, the bishops. This is summed up in Christ’s own words, “He who hears you hears me, and he who rejects you rejects me, and he who rejects me rejects him who sent me” (Lk 10:16).
Those who claim that Christ did not establish a Church with the authority to teach in His name are forced to find some alternate explanation for these and many passages of Scripture.
“I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it” (Mt 16:18).
“All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo I am with you always, to the close of the age” (Mt 28:18-20).
“If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. If he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Again, I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered in my name, there I am in the midst of them” (Mt 18:17-19).
The Book of Acts and the Epistles all illustrate a Church in action, a living Church with a hierarchy already established. In the New Testament, we read of a new bishop being ordained to replace Judas (Acts 1), of the first Church council (Acts 15), of bishops ordaining priests (Tit 1:5), a hierarchy of bishops, priests, and deacons (Eph 4:11, 1 Tim 3:1, 3:8, 5:17), all being led by a single shepherd, the successor of Peter (Jn 10:16).
Apostolic Succession
All of these things mean nothing, of course, if the Apostles did not have the power to pass on their commission (and charisms) to their successors. We see above how the New Testament illustrates the selection of successors with Mathias being selected to replace Judas. We know this is valid because Christ intended His Church to go on for all time, not just the lifespan of the Apostles (Mt 16:18, 28:20).
When we speak of the Catholic Church as being an Apostolic church, we mean that she has preserved Apostolic Succession – an unbroken line from bishop to bishop from the Apostles to the present day. We also mean that she maintains the Apostolic teaching, the Divine Deposit of Faith, as well as the Apostolic authority given to her by Christ.
Everyone on earth is in some form of sin. The Bible tells us that nothing unclean gets into Heaven. Purgatory is just the name we give to the process of getting cleansed of our sin. The Bible doesn’t say exactly what that is. So, The One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church of Jesus Christ doesn’t say exactly what it is either. Just that it exists.
The Bible doesn’t say that the Trinity as most Christians understand it exists; neither does it say to attend church on Sunday. If you believe in the Trinity and you attend church on Sunday, then you are following the edicts of the True Church and not the Bible. How do you reconcile this seemingly contradictory behaviour? I see your claims and I find a gaping hole in them.
This is important. Your claim is that if things of God are not found in the Bible, then they must be rejected. If you practice what is not found in the Bible, then your claims that others’ practices are wrong because they are not found in the Bible would also invalidate your claims.