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To: pjr12345
It’s not what I say that matters, it’s what God says through His Word.

AMEN!!! You are absolutely correct!

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Mark 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

16:16 doesn't say, "...he that believeth not and is not baptized shall be damned."

Acts 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

I don't know what else to say to you. Baptism is a work! If I can be saved by that work, I can be saved by any of my "good works" and the death, burial, and resurection of Jesus Christ as an atonement for my sins is in vain...AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT. I was baptized, but it was out of submission and obedience to Jesus, not for my salvation. Do you believe that a soldier in a foxhole can't be saved, get shot, die, and have received salvation for his sins...without being dipped in water? I just don't get it. What other works do you do that makes you "good enough" to get into heaven?

I don't mean to get so sarcastic, but these are the same arguments...

In Christ, Wiley

73 posted on 06/04/2007 7:30:26 PM PDT by WileyPink ("...I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6b)
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To: WileyPink

If your interpretation is correct, then you’ll need to tell me which Scripture to follow. Shall I simply “believe”, or shall I “believe and confess”? Perhaps I should “believe and be baptized”, or “repent and be baptized”. Or, I could simply “continue in obedience”. Which of the Scriptures is correct, and which is wrong?


83 posted on 06/04/2007 9:41:18 PM PDT by pjr12345 (I'm a Christian Conservative Republican, NOT a Republican Conservative Christian.)
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To: WileyPink
I was baptized, but it was out of submission and obedience to Jesus, not for my salvation. Do you believe that a soldier in a foxhole can't be saved, get shot, die, and have received salvation for his sins...without being dipped in water? I just don't get it. What other works do you do that makes you "good enough" to get into heaven?

Exactly...If you do a work for God, He owes you...God is become a debtor...

111 posted on 06/05/2007 10:33:32 AM PDT by Iscool (OK, I'm Back...Now what were your other two wishes???)
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