I Looked at the Early Church and There Wasn't a Baptist in Sight [Ken Hensley]

Los Angeles Lay Catholic Mission ^ | 1997 | Lesley Payne

[Lee N. Field]

I still can't make much sense of this chart.

What's the vertical dimension signify?

3. The horizontal lines at the bottom have between them the nicknames given to Baptists during the passing years and ages -- Novations, Montanists, Paulicians and Waldenses.

I don't at this instant know anything about the Novations or Paulicians. The Waldensians are OK, far as I know.

The Montanists you don't want in your pedigree. Ditto the Albigenisans and Cathars, who you don't mention, though they are on the chart. And who are these "Puritans" in the 4th century.

I notice they don't mention Munster.

[Titanites]

It was in the year 251 that Baptist Churches declared nonfellowship with the irregular churches.

Where does this "history" come from?

[Lee N. Field]

Where does this "history" come from?

Landmarkism.

[George W. Bush]

I notice they don't mention Munster.

English and American Baptists are not connected with the continental anabaptists of that era.

[George W. Bush]

Also, it looks like someone took 10 minutes to scratch this out on the back of an envelope. Isn’t there a better version?

Those kinds of charts were a staple of the old fundamentalist churches in the first half of the twentieth century.

Some of them are really awful. This one isn't very professional. Some are almost funny. They look, well, dated. I guess that's what people did before they had Powerpoint and a projector.

[Louis Foxwell]

If you want to be religious become Catholic.
If you want to follow Christ get out of all churches.

[streetpreacher]

Harold Camping, is that you?

[RobbyS]

No, but Mohammad claimed that the God who revealed the Qur’an to him was the God of Abraham. that Judaism and Christianity each gives a distorted view of Him. I don’t think any of this is true, but certainly that is the departure point of Islam.

[RobbyS]

So much of Baptist doctrine is defined in terms of the rejection of Papal authority in the 16th Century that it is hard to say that Christian bodies of the first centuries can be called “Baptist”.

[wmfights]

So much of Baptist doctrine is defined in terms of the rejection of Papal authority in the 16th Century that it is hard to say that Christian bodies of the first centuries can be called “Baptist”.

Nonsense.

Scripture as final authority, believer's Baptism, equality of believer's, regenerate church membership and separation of church and state are all alien to the RCC. Churches of the first centuries that held these principles held beliefs that Baptists hold today.

It's interesting that no matter how hard the RCC tried to eliminate them there has always been a group of Christians that held these beliefs.

What was it Jesus said about being willing to suffer in his name?

[HarleyD]

I think it may be impossible to prove a continuous Baptist Church per se.

Yes, I have to agree with wmfights. It is very near impossible to prove a continous Baptist Church. I think there is evidences to suggest that it was always out there but they just weren't very dilligent in recording things. When they did record things, they weren't very pretty. :O)

[twonie]

I was a catholic before becoming a Southern Baptist. Do we need to go on with this? I’m ready, any time. I don’t agree with the catholics on anything, but I am willing to leave them alone.

[twonie]

Not quite the same, don’t you think? Not quite the same.

[twonie]

I believe it is not in our best interest to encourage moslems in this country, when they have come here for the expressed purpose of killing all of us. Just my opinion. Fire away.

[ItsOurTimeNow]

Fr. Meurer is only following in the steps of Koran-kissing Pope JPII.

Idolatrous heresies often find company amongst each other.

[ItsOurTimeNow]

>>Praying to Mary is not in the New Testament, it is totally invented by the Catholics. Baptizing infants is not in the New Testament, it was totally invented by the Catholics. The list goes on and on.<<

Amen!

Indulgences, purgatory, the Mass, prayers to dead people, prayers to relics and bones, men making other men “saints”, etc, etc. All invented, all keeping men blind to the truth.

catholic is to be spelled with a small “c”.