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I Looked at the Early Church and There Wasn't a Baptist in Sight [Ken Hensley]
Los Angeles Lay Catholic Mission ^ | 1997 | Lesley Payne

Posted on 06/03/2007 6:11:12 PM PDT by Titanites

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To: swmobuffalo

Who said the true Church “resides” in Rome? But it would be odd if the “true” Church taught contradictory things and not just about small matters.


21 posted on 06/03/2007 10:20:23 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Titanites
I Looked at the Early Church and There Wasn't a Baptist in Sight

Should have looked in his Bible.

Mat 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

22 posted on 06/03/2007 10:24:59 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Titanites
Ken Hensley was a pastor of a First Baptist Church prior to becoming a Catholic.

What's the over-under on how many "First Baptist Churches" ther are in the United States? Would not be surprised if there were at leasr 25-35,000.

23 posted on 06/03/2007 10:27:54 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: swmobuffalo

Amen to that.


24 posted on 06/03/2007 10:29:26 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: swmobuffalo
Bashing Baptists seems to be the order of the weekend.

That's too bad and uncalled for. Maybe I can help - who is doing the bashing?

This is the second such nonsense I’ve seen.

I'm sure Ken Hensley doesn't consider it nonsense. Do you consider it nonsense just because he became a Catholic?

Protestantism came about because folk got tired of the nonsense promoted by Rome.

You are entitled to your opinion. I tend to think that part of the cause was vain individuals wanting to become their own pope.

The true church doesn’t reside in Rome.

I'm not sure what you mean by that, or who has claimed that. Christ founded a visible Church, as Scripture testifies. This One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic church is made up of 22 Catholic churches, one of which is the Latin church, and the Eastern Orthodox.

25 posted on 06/03/2007 10:40:08 PM PDT by Titanites
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Nor was there a Catholic in sight. The first church was composed of followers of Jesus Christ period. The doctrine they followed was the New Testament. It was described in the New Testament as “the church of Christ” and “the church of God”, no where is it ever described as Catholic.

If Catholics want to go down this road it will open many of their eyes to the truth of their traditionalisms that has nothing to do with the first church of Christ. Praying to Mary is not in the New Testament, it is totally invented by the Catholics. Baptizing infants is not in the New Testament, it was totally invented by the Catholics. The list goes on and on.


26 posted on 06/03/2007 10:41:35 PM PDT by SwordofTruth (God is good all the time.)
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To: RobbyS; Old_Mil
Allah is simply the Arab word for God (THE ONE GOD). Given that Mohammed’s revelation owes so much to the Jews, perhaps the best way to thing of it as a distortion of Judaism.

Good point. Yes, Arabic speaking Christians, whether they are Catholic or not, use Allah for God.

27 posted on 06/03/2007 10:44:49 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: SeaHawkFan
What's the over-under on how many "First Baptist Churches" ther are in the United States? Would not be surprised if there were at leasr 25-35,000.

That's because "First Baptist" or "First Methodist" or whatever, does NOT mean "first ever on the planet", but simply, first to be built in that city. Here and there you'll see a church called "Second Baptist of [Town name]".

28 posted on 06/03/2007 10:45:59 PM PDT by Rytwyng (open borders = open treason)
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To: SwordofTruth
If Catholics want to go down this road it will open many of their eyes to the truth of their traditionalisms that has nothing to do with the first church of Christ.

I think Catholics would like to go down this road. I invite you to start a separate thread as there are many here who would like to discuss this with you.

29 posted on 06/03/2007 10:56:43 PM PDT by Titanites
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“This One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic church is made up of 22 Catholic churches, one of which is the Latin church, and the Eastern Orthodox.”

And that is found in scripture where? You contradict yourself in saying that my statement wasn’t correct and then say this regarding the “true church”.

I don’t care if a Protestant converts to Catholicism or vise versa. That’s between them and God.
What I do care about is evangelicals such as Baptists being painted with a false brush in an attempt to promote the “correctness” of the Catholic church.


30 posted on 06/03/2007 11:39:57 PM PDT by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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And that is found in scripture where?

I think it is right next to the doctrine of sola scriptura.

You contradict yourself in saying that my statement wasn’t correct and then say this regarding the “true church”.

That wasn't a contradiction. You said "The true church doesn’t reside in Rome", and I replied "I'm not sure what you mean by that."

What I do care about is evangelicals such as Baptists being painted with a false brush in an attempt to promote the “correctness” of the Catholic church.

What "false brush"?

31 posted on 06/04/2007 12:14:13 AM PDT by Titanites
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To: Titanites

Sola the Word of God, Jesus Christ, of Mathew 23.

‘nuff said.


32 posted on 06/04/2007 12:18:39 AM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: Titanites

Those threads you provided a link to have all been posted as a response.


33 posted on 06/04/2007 1:14:34 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: Rytwyng; SeaHawkFan; Titanites
first to be built in that city

Apparently, the poster of #3 doesn't realize that since he called it "a" first baptist church.

Indicating, of course, that he doesn't have much of an idea about the church he is (today) attacking. (He apparently thinks there is a denomination, perhaps, called "first" baptists?

LOL!

34 posted on 06/04/2007 1:33:39 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: Titanites; Uriah_lost
Your condemnation is a little lopsided, don't you think?

Wow, you keep statistics on all posters?! That's a little obsessive, wouldn't you agree?

35 posted on 06/04/2007 1:38:36 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Titanites
We shouldn't just be helping those who hold our same belief.

really ? - what about wiccan temples.....or faiths that would deny the deity of Christ ?

36 posted on 06/04/2007 2:28:26 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Titanites
No Baptists in the early church? Hmmmmm! There were no priests, cardinals, popes, or Catholics either!

But there were presbyters. The church of Rome was run by a college of presbyters until the late 2nd century.

If he had only done his homework, he should have become a Presbyterian ------- but none of these so-called converts to Catholicism ever do their homework.

37 posted on 06/04/2007 4:50:29 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: xzins
He apparently thinks there is a denomination, perhaps, called "first" baptists?

But in actuality he doesn't. But since you bring it up, it is interesting to note that there isn't just a single "Baptist" denomination in America, there are many:


38 posted on 06/04/2007 5:42:14 AM PDT by Titanites
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really ? - what about wiccan temples.....or faiths that would deny the deity of Christ ?

So, since Jews don't believe in Christ, we shouldn't help the Jews? Mother Theresa shouldn't have helped the non-Christian sick and destitute in India? I don't buy it. As a Christian, I should help those in need.

39 posted on 06/04/2007 5:49:09 AM PDT by Titanites
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To: RobbyS
Allah is an alliteraation of Al-Illah, the pre-Islamic Arabic moon god who occupied the same spot in the Arabic pantheon as did Zeus for the Greeks.

If you buy into the Allah is the one true god nonsense, keep in mind that Mohammmedans insist on inserting this specific word into conversations they are having in English...which goes to show that they think Allah is not just "God", but their god. Alternatively, try a little experiment ... have a conversation ke this in Iran, using Jehovah instead of Allah in English (no big deal, they sre equal right?)...just make sure you have a witness who can report back on how long it takes them to cut off your head. Regardlese, Christian church es don't build pagan temples ... and those who do are damning they people they are trying 'to help'.
40 posted on 06/04/2007 5:49:16 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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