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To: Secret Agent Man

Thank you.

There are not one of our churches with clean hands in that time frame


55 posted on 06/01/2007 3:01:00 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: ears_to_hear
There are not one of our churches with clean hands in that time frame

Then why are you engaging in pointing fingers?

57 posted on 06/01/2007 3:03:30 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: ears_to_hear

People ignore the fact that as Luther got older, he did get increasingly frustrated with people’s unbelief. Initially after his break from Rome, he did make outreaches to the Jews in his area. I am sure the Jews, after such wonderful treatment by Christians, were skeptical of Luther (probably any Christian at that time) and his results with them (in terms of them accepting the Gospel/Christianity) was very poor. His initial writings exhorted fellow Christians to bring the Gospel to the Jews.

After 20+ years of very little success, with them, and other groups he wrote some very depressing, bitter, un-Luther-like things about them. My own belief is that he took this personally and was lashing out at others because he couldn’t convince them of the truth. Here we see the human being that is Luther, and his failings. We don’t disguise the fact Luther was human and prone to error. We acknowledge the error and simply say, this is something we as Lutherans do not stand by or agree with.

And from what I have read about Luther’s rants against Jews, his fellow Germans, etc, it appears he reserved the worst and harshest of his criticisms to his fellow Germans.


61 posted on 06/01/2007 3:09:54 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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