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Leaving the Catholic Church, A Letter of Resignation
Lazyboy's Rest Stop ^ | Robert Mayberry

Posted on 06/01/2007 2:28:41 PM PDT by Gamecock

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To: Petronski

A three-time move to the same block is the same as a forfeiture.

:>)


121 posted on 06/01/2007 4:45:58 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: tiki

According to Catholic canon law, a heretic is to be purged by the following steps:

I. Excommunication. This sentence is to be pronounced not only on notorious heretics, and those suspected of heresy, but also on those who harbour, defend, or assist them, or who converse familiarly with them, or trade with them, or hold communion of any sort with them.

So anybody who refused the Papists, or was suspected of it, or even talked to them, was excommunicated. This sounds like some Hitler or the Red Scare.
II. Proscription from all offices, ecclesiastical or civil,—from all public duties and private rights.

So the folks in number one above no longer had any rights or jobs to support their families. It gets worse.
III. Confiscation of all their goods.

This is what the greedy Romanists really wanted in the first place. In Foxe’s Book of Martyrs we find that they accused some rich people (even devout Catholics) of heresy just so that they could get their money. Why do think the Vatican is one of the richest governments in the whole world?
You don’t think they are greedy? According to their canon law, “It is not lawful for a layman to sit in judgment upon a clergyman. Secular judges who dare, in the exercise of a damnable presumption, to compel priests to pay their debts, are to be restrained by spiritual censures.” (Decreti, Gregorii, lib. ii. tit. ii. cap. i. ii. vi, and Sexti Decret. lib. ii. tit. ii.cap. ii.) According to this decretal, the priests are not subject to the legal system—even when they have debts. Now you know that’s wrong.

Canon law also says, “The tribunals of kings are subjected to the power of priests.” (Decreti, pars i. distinct. x. can. vi) You can believe that when the Roman monster takes over the world all of this will rise again to its former monstrous glory. How about this one, “Whatever belongs to priests cannot be usurped by kings.” (Decreti, pars i. distinct. x. can. v.) But doesn’t the Bible tell us to be subject to the powers that be? This ain’t right.

Another example of greed. The canon law says clerics are not to pay taxes (Decret. Gregorii, lib. iii. tit. xlix. cap. iv. and vii.)—BUT JESUS HIMSELF PAID TAXES!!!!! The Catholic religion says its priests are exempt—greed my friends, greed! That could be a whole article in itself. All that money for masses for the dead—it does no good and it lines the pocket of this devilish institution.

IV. The last punishment is death sometimes by the sword,—more commonly by fire.

So they can kill anyone who opposes them.

http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/kill.htm


122 posted on 06/01/2007 4:47:32 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: Suzy Quzy

see #117


123 posted on 06/01/2007 4:47:49 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: ears_to_hear

Because the amount of vitriol from the sites he uses surpasses by an infinite order of magnitude the conversion stories of those to join the Catholic faith.

To me, the stories chosen, if true, are chosen to be as offensive as possible.

I have my doubts about the veracity of the stories.


124 posted on 06/01/2007 4:48:05 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: xzins
Does that make me properly someone you should heed?

Nope.

And I shudder to think of what you did to any Catholics in the service who might have had no choice but to seek your counsel.

125 posted on 06/01/2007 4:48:06 PM PDT by Petronski (Keep your eye on www.fredthompson.com very soon.)
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To: Alex Murphy

I am so glad you told me that ! LOL


126 posted on 06/01/2007 4:48:53 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: xzins

Whatever you say....Right.....Catholic Church is just a fraud. Right.....whatever you say.


127 posted on 06/01/2007 4:49:40 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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To: xzins
A three-time move to the same block is the same as a forfeiture.

You're entitled to your own personal interpretation of scripture. You're also entitled to belittle scripture by comparing your errors to some irrelevant chess game. Have fun.

128 posted on 06/01/2007 4:49:46 PM PDT by Petronski (Keep your eye on www.fredthompson.com very soon.)
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To: xzins

“I know a few things about the bible, and I don’t recall any annointing by oil.”

You put limits on Christ.


129 posted on 06/01/2007 4:50:32 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: ears_to_hear
I am so glad you told me that ! LOL

You mean, you're so glad someone made it up to deflect criticism of anti-Catholic hate.

Good luck with that too.

130 posted on 06/01/2007 4:50:56 PM PDT by Petronski (Keep your eye on www.fredthompson.com very soon.)
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To: OpusatFR
Please confine yourself to the non-scriptural doctrine of sola xzins.
131 posted on 06/01/2007 4:51:48 PM PDT by Petronski (Keep your eye on www.fredthompson.com very soon.)
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To: Gamecock
Note: In the parish priest's response to my letter he did not comment on any of the doctrinal issues that I raised.

... And with good reason. A true conversion to the Faith is not based on an individual's agreement with this doctrine or that ... c.f.: Cardinal Newman's letter to the Duke of Norfolk. A conversion into any community of faith is just that: an act of faith. Otherwise, one would need an STD in theology to make a fully informed conversion.

In any case, I'll keep you in my prayers; and, in the words Robert Bolt put into St. Thomas Moore's mouth in his play, "We can only hope that, when your head stops spinning, your face is to the front again."

132 posted on 06/01/2007 4:52:13 PM PDT by Balt
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To: Petronski; xzins
xzins wrote
It will forever be true that there is no scriptural basis for rcc mariology: immaculate conception, assumption, co-redemptrix. It simply cannot be demonstrated biblically.

You responded You are also, of course, entitled to your own personal interpretation of scripture.

His opinion is based on FACT so it is more than an opinion, it is a provable truth.

Please share with us the scripture that teaches those doctrines .

The word of God always verifies itself in more than one place so I am sure you have many many scriptures to prove your belief

133 posted on 06/01/2007 4:53:04 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: ears_to_hear
His opinion is based on FACT so it is more than an opinion, it is a provable truth.

It is his assertion, let him prove it.

You can learn all you want of Catholic teaching from the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

134 posted on 06/01/2007 4:55:45 PM PDT by Petronski (Keep your eye on www.fredthompson.com very soon.)
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To: Suzy Quzy
Sorry, but ONLY the Catholic Church can trace itself back to Jesus, when he gave the Keys to the Kingdom, and gave all the Apostles the Power of Forgiveness (Confession) and sent the Holy Spirit to them!

Where did Jesus specifically tell them they could pass on those keys or the gifts He gave for the building of the church? ( hint He never did )

Please share that with us

BTW I trace my faith back to the cross of Christ

135 posted on 06/01/2007 4:56:24 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: ears_to_hear

Good for you. I’m glad. I’ll bet you don’t go to Church, do you?


136 posted on 06/01/2007 4:57:58 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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To: Petronski

“Please confine yourself to the non-scriptural doctrine of sola xzins.”

LOL! I have to run and knock back a cold one.


137 posted on 06/01/2007 4:58:57 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Suzy Quzy; ears_to_hear

Suzy, don’t get sucked into this busywork exercise again. This question has been answered dozens of times on Free Republic.

He asks for proof and then says “( hint He never did ).”

Having already decided, his request for proof is in vain, and should be ignored for its dark motivation.


138 posted on 06/01/2007 5:00:15 PM PDT by Petronski (Keep your eye on www.fredthompson.com very soon.)
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To: Petronski

I did what a good chaplain is supposed to do, and what a Catholic chaplain would do for me: I applied the rules of general versus direct support.

To Catholics I would have given general support on issues of faith and worship, and to Methodists, in particular, I would have had the authority to provide direct religious support.

An interesting case that came up during the invasion of Panama was a young man from the 82nd (Larry Cerano) who was seriously wounded, being readied for surgery, and requesting a chaplain. Larry was a Catholic, but the only Catholic chaplain was across the isthmus and totally unavailable. At that point, in that operating room, there was only one chaplain present to pray for him....me.

What would you have done?


139 posted on 06/01/2007 5:00:21 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: OpusatFR
Right now, I am relaxing while I observe the non-biblical doctrine of sola cerveza.
140 posted on 06/01/2007 5:01:03 PM PDT by Petronski (Keep your eye on www.fredthompson.com very soon.)
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