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To: NYer
How does anyone kow the devil even knows Latin???

You guys keep telling us that Mary defeated Satan...Why does anyone have to worry about Satan???

17 posted on 05/31/2007 9:16:58 AM PDT by Iscool (OK, I'm Back...Now what were your other two wishes???)
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To: Iscool
So, the Devil isn't a fallen angel? He doesn't have a supernatural intellect?

I don't know where you got this thing about Mary defeating Satan, meaning past tense. The Devil is still "prowling about the world, seeking the ruin of souls."

18 posted on 05/31/2007 9:30:10 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Iscool

EXSÚRGAT Deus, et dissipéntur inimici ejus, et fúgiant qui odérunt eum, a fácie ejus.
Sicut déficit fumus, deficiant: sicut fluit cera a fácie ignis, sic péreant peccatóres a fácie Dei.

Ecce Crucem Dómini, fúgite, partes advérsæ.
Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, radix David.

Fiat misericórdia tua, Dómine, super nos.
Quemádmodum sperávimus in te.

EXORCIZÁMUS te, omnis immúnde spíritus, omni satánica potéstas, omnis incúrsio infernális adversárii, omnis légio, omnis congregátio et secta diabólica, in nómini et virtúte Dómini nostri Jesu + Christi, eradicáre et effugáre a Dei Ecclésia, ab animábus ad imáginem Dei cónditis ac pretióso divíni Agni sánguini redémptis +. Non ultra áudeas, serpens callidíssime, decípere humánum genus, Dei Ecclésiam pérsequi, ac Dei electos excútere et cribráre sicut tríticum +. Imperat tibi Deus altíssimus +, cui in magna tua supérbia te símililem habéri adhuc præsúmis; qui omnis hómines vult salvos fíeri, et ad agnitiónem veritátis veníre. Imperat tibi Deus Pater +; ímperat tibi Deus Fílius +; ímperat tibi Deus Spíritus Sanctus +. Imperat tibi Christus, ætérnum Dei Verbum caro factum +, qui pro salúte géneris nostri tua invídia pérditi, humiliávit semetípsum factus obédiens usque ad mortem; qui Ecclésiam suam ædificávit supra firmam petram et portas ínferi advérsus eam numquam esse prævalitrúras edixit, cum ea ipse permansúrus ómnibus diébus usque ad consumatiónem sæculi. Imperat tibi sacraméntum Crucis +, omniúnque christiánæ fídei Mysteriórum virtus +. Imperat tibi excélsa Dei Génetrix Virgo Maria +, quæ superbíssimum caput tuum a primo instánti immaculátæ suæ Conceptiónis in sua humilitáte contrivit. Imperat tibi fides sactórum Apostolórum Petri et Pauli ceterorúnque Apostolórum +. Imperat tibi Mártyrum sanguis, ac pia Sanctórum et Sanctárum ómnium intercéssio +.

Ergo, draco maledicte et omnis légio diabólica adjurámus te per Deum + vivum, per Deum + verum, per Deum + sanctum, per Deum, qui sic diléxit mundum, ut Filium suum unigénitum daret, ut omnis, qui credit in eum, non péreat, sed hábeat vitam ætérnæ: cessa decípere humánas creatúras, eisque æternæ perditiónis venénum propináre: désine Ecclesiæ nocére et ejus libertáti láqueos injícere. Vade, sátana, invéntor et magister omnis fallaciæ, hostis humánæ salútis. Da locum Christo, in quo nihil invenísti de opéribus tuis; da locum Ecclesiæ uni, sanctæ, cathólicæ, et Apostólicae, quam Christus ipse acquisívit sánguine suo. Humiliáre sub potenti manu Dei; contremísce et éffuge, invocato a nobis sancto et terríbili Nómini Jesu, quem ínferi tremunt, cui Virtútis cælórum et Potestátes et Dominatiónes subjéctæ sunt; quem Chérubim et Séraphim indeféssis vócibus laudant, dicéntes: Sanctus, Sanctus, Sanctus Dóminus Deus Sábaoth.
I. Dómine, exaúdi oratiónem meam.
A. Et clamor meus ad te véniat.
B. Dóminus vobíscum.
C. Et cum spíritu tuo.

Orémus Oratio

Deus cæli, Deus terræ, Deus Angelórum, Deus Archangelórum, Deus Patriarchárum, Deus Prophetárum, Deus Apostolórum, Deus Mártyrum, Deus Confessórum, Deus Virginum, Deus qui potestátem habes donáre vitam post mortem, réquiem post labórem: quia not est Deus præter te, nec esse potest nisi tu, créator ómnium visibílium et invisibílium, cujus regni non erit finis: humíliter majestati glóriæ tuæ suplicámus, ut ab omni infernálium spirítuum potestáte, láqueo deceptióne et nequítia nos poténter liberáre, et incólumes custodíre dignéris. Per Christum Dóminum nostrum.
Amen.

Ab insídiis diáboli, libera nos, Dómine.

Ut Ecclésiam tuam secúra tibi fácias libertáte servire, te rogámus, audi nos.

Ut inimícus sanctæ Ecclésiae humiliáre dignéris, te rogámus, audi nos.

Et aspergatur locus aqua benedicta. +


19 posted on 05/31/2007 9:34:23 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (Dead Ráibéad.... Lifelong Irish Papist!)
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To: Iscool
How does anyone kow the devil even knows Latin???

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Don't underestimate the devil.

25 posted on 05/31/2007 9:57:47 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Iscool; NYer; Salvation

Iscool, thank you for giving me another opportunity to talk about Mary! Your question is legitimate, and for the sake of brevity I’ll just say that this article is very generalized, sketchy and incomplete. It’s just talking a bit about the validity of exorcism, obviously a deep and controversial and complex topic. But I have read several things by Fr. Amorth himself.

In an interview last year with “Inside the Vatican” magazine he specifically talks about Mary and how often he is not successful in the exorcism until he invokes Mary’s help. He also says the devil is capable of the most vile and blasphemous language, yet never can speak against Mary.

As long as we are on planet earth, the devil is not “overcome” - in the sense that he’s alive and well. But our own prayers, the sacraments, and in these rare extreme cases of possession, God does intervene and Mary does intervene and offer protection.

Also, another topic, this article sets up a simplistic dichotomy between psychology, psychiatry (actually it speaks of those two fields as if they were the same, and they’re not) and spiritual realms. Even Fr. Amorth has stated that 90% of “possession” cases are actually physical, mental or neurological illnesses. He works closely with doctors and usually will not take on a client until a medical evaluation has ruled out those aspects.

“Oh, Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.”

“Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genetrix; nostras deprecationes ne despecias, in necessitatibus; sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper, Virgo gloriosa et benedicta!”


33 posted on 05/31/2007 10:25:08 AM PDT by baa39 (Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us. Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.)
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To: Iscool
How does anyone kow the devil even knows Latin???

The devil has an angelic intellect. He knows Latin, every other human language, and a whole lot more besides.

And all of his knowledge is devoted to evil.

The good news is that Christ has defeated the devil, and he's a chained dog who can do only what God permits.

50 posted on 05/31/2007 11:36:01 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Iscool
How does anyone kow the devil even knows Latin???

The devil has spoken Latin during exorcisms. He can speak any language.

66 posted on 05/31/2007 12:14:35 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Iscool
How does anyone know the devil even knows Latin???

Of course, if you've ever studied Latin, you can see why the devil hates it, lol. Masculine, feminine, neuter nouns , the pluperfect, the past pluperfect, the future pluperfect. I got an A five years running, though!

73 posted on 05/31/2007 12:19:52 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings ("The Bible is the rock on which our Republic rests." Andrew Jackson, President of U.S.)
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