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Head Coverings for Women (in the Catholic Church)
Zenit News Agency ^ | May 22, 2007 | Father Edward McNamara

Posted on 05/22/2007 6:24:41 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 05/22/2007 6:24:43 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

A timely topic, as usual.


2 posted on 05/22/2007 6:25:40 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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Yeah, and when women show up without head coverings someone plops a kleenex on their heads. That’s better than not having any covering? I think not. Just another in a long list of why I’ve quit the Catholic Church.


3 posted on 05/22/2007 6:29:00 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: NYer

I had this very same ???? reading the Bible/Adult Catechism class and I remember as a child the head coverings.

The answer given to me was Vatican 1972 (right year?) when the Mass went to English, the nuns lost thier habits and the gloves and head coverings were no longer required. (short answer)


4 posted on 05/22/2007 6:34:57 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: NYer

Personally? I find a lacy mantilla to be absolutely lovely. And I wish women would wear hats to church as well.

We always "dressed up" for Church as a sign of being somewhere special when I was a kid; and even more so during the Holidays.

And we were boring, white-bread Lutherans!

5 posted on 05/22/2007 6:41:21 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: NYer
Raised Baptist, this was never an issue. But attending my best friend's Assembly of God church, I was amazed.

All the women had their heads covered.

I assume this is still the practice.

6 posted on 05/22/2007 6:42:38 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: mtbopfuyn
Yeah, and when women show up without head coverings someone plops a kleenex on their heads. That’s better than not having any covering? I think not. Just another in a long list of why I’ve quit the Catholic Church.

I suppose everyone can find reasons if they look hard enough for them. On a scale of 1 to 100, this is -5.78, however.

7 posted on 05/22/2007 6:46:18 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Dead Ráibéad.... Lifelong Irish Papist!)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Yeah, and when women show up without head coverings someone plops a kleenex on their heads. That’s better than not having any covering? I think not. Just another in a long list of why I’ve quit the Catholic Church.

Apparently you didn't read the article all the way through. The majority of Catholics no longer wear head coverings, even though we once did pre VCII. To leave the Catholic Church over wearing a head covering in reverence and respect for God, is a very flimsy excuse. I'm guessing your quibble is far deeper than that. You are always welcome home.

8 posted on 05/22/2007 6:46:19 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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“Yeah, and when women show up without head coverings someone plops a kleenex on their heads. That’s better than not having any covering? I think not. Just another in a long list of why I’ve quit the Catholic Church.”

oh c’mon.
Sure it’s silly and can make a person roll their eyes, but everywhere you go there’s going to be some sort of silliness.

I see the same types from all different types of denominations - “Look at me! I’m holier than you!” - and they have different ways of expressing that sentiment, but we shouldn’t allow it discourage us from practicing our faith.


9 posted on 05/22/2007 6:48:19 PM PDT by Scotswife (Yeah, and when women show up without head coverings someone plops a kleenex on their heads. That’s b)
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I think a show of reverence for God is simply innate in humans if they are allowed to express it. It is akin to Catholics who still genuflect or kneel to receive the Eucharist rather than strictly stand in line as one would at the Dairy Queen. I applaud those women and their overt show of Faith!


10 posted on 05/22/2007 6:48:53 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Dead Ráibéad.... Lifelong Irish Papist!)
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13 posted on 05/22/2007 6:52:19 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Dead Ráibéad.... Lifelong Irish Papist!)
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I applaud those women and their overt show of Faith!

And I agree whole-heartedly. I was just amazed to see it, though I've never seen it since in any other Protestant denominational church.

14 posted on 05/22/2007 6:57:07 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: Frank Sheed

A GREAT movie. I just bought it on DVD.


15 posted on 05/22/2007 6:59:25 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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I fervently agree! I don’t have the DVD but I have a great deal of the dialog memorized.

It is tough to beat a comedy starring John Wayne, Maureen O’Hara, Ward Bond, Victor McLauglin and Barry Fitzgerald (plus the Irish Players) in a movie directed by John Ford.

And it has all of Ireland as the backdrop...sigh!


16 posted on 05/22/2007 7:05:01 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Dead Ráibéad.... Lifelong Irish Papist!)
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To: mtbopfuyn

LOL - Classic!


17 posted on 05/22/2007 7:23:44 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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You quit the Catholic Church over KLEENEX!?!?!?!?!?

Now that's just silly.

Gain some perspective for Pete's sake and come on home.

And donate a box of doilies and bobby pins for the ladies (they had two of them in the narthex when I was a kid -- and that was for Episcopalians!)

18 posted on 05/22/2007 7:26:13 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: NYer
Here's a charming catalogue of veils in varying lengths and elaboration:

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19 posted on 05/22/2007 7:27:32 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: NYer; kawaii
Father McNamara's answer is disappointing. It shows that the post-Vatican II Catholic Church treats what is scriputral as something cultural. That is unfortunate. St. Paul states that what he writes is a commandment of God (1 Cor 14:37). Either the Church treats everytyhing as God's own words in the Bible or it doesn't.

There is nothing in the Pauline Epistles that says headcoverings were cultural. He doesn't say it applies to the Greeks (Cortinthians) and not to the Romans or the Jews when it comes to headcovering, but to all; he doesn't say in his days but maybe not tomorrow. He is very careful to specy if something is not the Lord's commandment but his own judgment (1 Cor 7:6, 25).

Bottom line is: headcovering was removed for social, faddish, politically correct reasons, making the scriptures fit our man-made norms rather than the other way around.

In Orthodox churches outside of North America, the separation of men and women and headcoverings for women are still largely observed. In America, it is largely ignored. That says a lot.

20 posted on 05/22/2007 8:26:38 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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