The chapter and verse says nothing about the Spirit speaking thru and leading the church...The chapter is about Apostles going about preaching to Jews Only...Preaching to Gentiles about a Gentile church is forbidden...
Your church AND my church includes Gentiles in their quest for members...Nothing in this chapter pertains to the infallibility of any church...
In Matt. 16:18 - Jesus promises the gates of Hades would never prevail against the Church. This requires that the Church teach infallibly. If the Church did not have the gift of infallibility, the gates of Hades and error would prevail. Also, since the Catholic Church was the only Church that existed up until the Reformation, those who follow the Protestant reformers call Christ a liar by saying that Hades did prevail.
No, we call your church a liar, not Jesus...Your church has a record of churches thruout history and your church did it's best to kill off the competition...
your religion combined forces with Pagan Rome and then had the means necessary to perform those autrocities...Half of your popes (or more) were Pagan Roman Emperors...
You really think God would not only allow but actually recruit Pagans to lead and inspire his church with dogma and doctrine???
To imagine these Pagan Magisterical Emperors carried God's infallible xtra-biblical message and instructions is ludicrous...
And, in Matt. 18:17-18 - the Church (not Scripture) is the final authority on questions of the faith. This demands infallibility when teaching the faith. She must be prevented from teaching error in order to lead her members to the fullness of salvation.
The verse doesn't say that or imply that...Without the scripture, what in the world can a church teach??? Without scripture, a church is no more valid than a religion like Izlam...Without scripture, one religious nut is just as credible as any other...
Show me where in Scripture Jesus tells His disciples to write down everything He says, compile them into a book, make copies and distribute these to the masses.
Iscool says: No, we call your church a liar,...Who is this "we" Iscool? You and your tapeworm? What label do you attach to the "we" that calls the largest, oldest and original Church of the Gospel "a liar". Or is it a 'church' of Iscool that you represent?
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