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To: Maeve; Antoninus; Pyro7480; kosta50; Kolokotronis
also because of rising esteem for the promise of the Marian apparation to Ida Peerdeman that with such a declaration graces would follow that would derail an oncoming global calamity.

If you'd really stop to think about it, you'd realize this idea is quite silly - namely that the hand of God will only be moved to our benefit by our puny actions in declaring new dogmas. I can't see how such a notion squares with the Bible.

"Behold the birds of the air, for they neither sow, nor do they reap, nor gather into barns: and your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are not you of much more value than they? ... For your Father knoweth that you have need of all these things. Seek ye therefore first the kingdom of God, and his justice, and all these things shall be added unto you." (St. Matthew 6.26, 32-33)

these folks have come to see responding to the call of the Lady of All Nations for the new dogmatic declaration as a last chance before "sudden destruction".

This is especially ridiculous. There is not a shread of evidence from the Bible that God is going to allow our destruction. This is speculative dispensationalist heresy run amok in the Catholic Church.

39 posted on 05/17/2007 6:07:45 AM PDT by Andrew Byler
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To: Andrew Byler; everyone

Ave Maria!
Mary’s role as Coredemptrix is Scriptural and rooted in Tradition—Saints, Popes, theologians and faithful alike have always seen Our Lady’s role in our salvation (always secondary and subordinated to Christ) as important.
Check out this link

http://www.voxpopuli.org/response_to_7_common_objections_part1.php

Also, Monsignor Calkins has some excellent articles on the web on this topic, such as

http://motherofallpeoples.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=833&Itemid=40

God included Mary in His plan for our salvation, including her sorrows with and under Christ for the sake of His Church during the actual event of our Redemption on Calvary. A dogma on Mary’s spiritual motherhood as Mediatrix of Grace and Coredemptrix would clarify that she is not equal to Christ in her role, yet would uphold her unique participation in the work of our salvation and her unique role in dispensing God’s grace to her children.

Peace...


46 posted on 05/17/2007 7:32:41 AM PDT by fr maximilian mary
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