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To: stfassisi; Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg
But I inform you that the holy Council of Trent does not reject translations in the vulgar tongue printed by the authority of the Ordinaries; only it commands (Reg. iv. Indicis.) that we should not begin to read them without leave of superiors. This is a very reasonable precaution against putting this sharp and two-edged sword ( Heb. iv. 12) into the hands of one who might kill himself therewith. But of this we will speak by and by.

The Church, then, does not approve that everybody who can read, without further assurance of his capacity than that which he persuades himself of in his own presumption, should handle this sacred memorial, nor truly is it right that she should so approve.

So much for those claims that the Catholic Church encouraged Bible reading among the layfolk at the time of the Reformation.

4 posted on 05/09/2007 10:18:25 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (FR Member Alex Murphy: Declared Anathema By The Council Of Trent)
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To: Alex Murphy
Then what reason is there that the Holy Spirit should give inspirations as to what every one must believe to nobodies, to Luther, to Calvin, they having abandoned without any such inspiration the Councils and the entire Church. We do not deny, to speak clearly, but that the knowledge of the true sacred books is a gift of the Holy Spirit, but we say that the Holy Spirit gives it to private individuals through the medium of the Church. Indeed if God had a thousand times revealed a thing to a private person we should not be obliged to believe it unless he stamped it so clearly that we could no longer call its validity in question. But we see nothing of this among your reformers. In a word, it is to the Church General that the Holy Spirit immediately addresses his inspirations and persuasions, then, by the preaching of the Church, he communicates them to private persons. It is the Spouse in whom the milk is produced, then the children suck it from her breasts. But you would have it, on the contrary, that God inspires private persons, and by these means the Church, that the children receive the milk and the mother is nourished at their breasts; an absurdity.

I,m not meaning to pick on you Dear Brother,but what part of the above quote do you not agree with?

7 posted on 05/09/2007 12:52:27 PM PDT by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: Alex Murphy
The Church, then, does not approve that everybody who can read, without further assurance of his capacity than that which he persuades himself of in his own presumption, should handle this sacred memorial, nor truly is it right that she should so approve.

So much for those claims that the Catholic Church encouraged Bible reading among the layfolk at the time of the Reformation.

This article is worth saving :)

10 posted on 05/09/2007 1:23:36 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: Alex Murphy
So much for those claims that the Catholic Church encouraged Bible reading among the layfolk at the time of the Reformation.

Is that the latest historical revisionism?

36 posted on 05/09/2007 5:59:20 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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