” +Augustine is a saint in the Orthodox Church as well, even though some of his teachings do not represent the consensus patrum, just as the Church does not teach +Gregory of Nyssa’s Origen-influenced universal salvation.
St. Gregory Nazianz clearly states it is “in my judgment” and not the Church doctrine.”
Ah, Kosta, you beat me to it! Some of us do have to work. :) It is ironic, is it not, that the West chose theological opinions of both +Augustine and +Gregory which were outside the consensus patrum.
There has been of late quite a discussion in the Latin Church over the proper “translation” of the words “pro multis” at the consecration. The post Vatican II era saw the usage of “for all” as opposed to the appropriate “for many”. +Gregory’s theology arguably would support the former.
Sorry, someone has to do it. :)
It is ironic, is it not, that the West chose theological opinions of both +Augustine and +Gregory which were outside the consensus patrum
In a way it explains how we drifted apart. If the west stuck with the consensus we would be on the same sheet of music, and probably there would have never been a rift.
There has been of late quite a discussion in the Latin Church over the proper “translation” of the words “pro multis” at the consecration. The post Vatican II era saw the usage of “for all” as opposed to the appropriate “for many”. +Gregory’s theology arguably would support the former
Pro multis is biblical (Mat 26:28, Mar 14:24). "For all" is not what He said. This is a good example that cherry-picking your favorite Church Father is inferior to consensus patrum, which is the only approach that guarantees the catholicity of the Church and the orthodoxy of the Faith.
For only through consensus do we all believe the same thing and agree that the faith is right and true.