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Rising Protestant tide sweeps Catholic Brazil
Washington Post ^ | May 3, 1977 | Todd Benson

Posted on 05/03/2007 12:50:55 PM PDT by siunevada

CARAPICUIBA, Brazil (Reuters) - For years, Ronaldo da Silva's daily routine consisted of drinking himself into a stupor until he passed out on a sidewalk.

Now he spends his days praying and singing with hundreds of fellow Christians at the Universal Church of the Kingdom of God in Carapicuiba, a sprawling shantytown on the outskirts of Sao Paulo where Pentecostal congregations are found on just about every block.

"I'd probably be dead or in jail if it weren't for this church," said da Silva, a 38-year-old former Catholic who claims God cured him of epilepsy and helped him straighten out his life when he converted to Pentecostalism a decade ago.

Conversions like da Silva's are increasingly common all over Brazil, where a boom in evangelical Protestantism is steadily chipping away at the supremacy of the Roman Catholic Church.

The trend, which is playing out all across Latin America, poses a major challenge for Pope Benedict, who arrives in Brazil on May 9 for a five-day visit largely aimed at blunting the decline of Catholicism in this continent-sized nation.

Although Brazil still has more Catholics than any other country in the world, with about 125 million, the percentage of believers that practice the Vatican's brand of Christianity has been dropping rapidly in the last three decades.

When the late Pope John Paul II visited Brazil in 1980, 89 percent of Brazilians identified themselves as Catholic. By 2000, when the last census was taken, the share of Catholics in the population had fallen to 74 percent.

The number of evangelical Protestants nearly tripled in the same period to 26 million, or about 15 percent of the population.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Charismatic Christian; History
KEYWORDS: catholic; pentecostal
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal

>> Oh, puleeese. Eucharist is a weekly part of my life, outside the Catholic Church **gasp**. <<

I’m curious: What denomination ARE you? (The Orthodox also administer the sacraments. The Lutherans lost apostolic succession, so mostly quit believing in the objective Real Presence shortly after it ceased being present... go figure. And the Episcopalians think they have it, but they also believe Bishop Vicki Robinson and Gov. McGreavey make for fine priests.) Most denominations just “re-enact” the Eucharist.


101 posted on 05/04/2007 1:07:02 PM PDT by dangus
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To: mware
"Well there is that formerly devout Catholic JimMcGrevy who wants to become a Presbyterian priest.

To be fair, I am not sure how devout a Catholic McGrevy ever was. Keep in mind, he also claimed to be a devout Heterosexual at the same time. I think we all remember how that turned out.

102 posted on 05/04/2007 1:08:44 PM PDT by Volunteer (Just so you know, I am ashamed the Dixie Chicks make records in Nashville.)
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To: Volunteer

Ya got a point there.


103 posted on 05/04/2007 1:10:33 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: dangus

Thank you.


104 posted on 05/04/2007 1:12:08 PM PDT by marsh_of_mists
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To: kawaii

So . . . Christian brotherhood is a very parochial homogeneous thing in that construction on reality . . .

Doesn’t sound like the Jesus I know.

Sounds like doing unto others has been torn out of that Bible, too.

Oh, I know, it’s been rewritten by the magisterical to be

“Do unto others before they do to you.”

I see.

Oh, I’m terribly moved by the flattery. First rate flattery. Must influence tons of people in the desired direction.


105 posted on 05/04/2007 1:17:47 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Thorin

From who’s perspective?

Have a lot of trouble believing that’s God’s perspective.


106 posted on 05/04/2007 1:18:51 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

if you look at the new testament it’s pretty homogenous indeed (Christian and non-Christian).

that would actually be WHY St Paul mentioned one should be wary of wolves pitching alternate versions.

as for desired direction Holy Scripture has already articulated the right direction, if groups refuse that or seek to pervert it and instead seek their own alternatives they’re wolves plain and simple.


107 posted on 05/04/2007 1:20:42 PM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: kawaii

There’s plenty of Scripture to construe such postings as I’m responding to

to be from a wolf pack.

Sweet ain’t it.


108 posted on 05/04/2007 1:23:40 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

indeed there is lots of scripture, like the one where St Paul articulates plainly why having a brotherhood with wolves is foul.


109 posted on 05/04/2007 1:27:17 PM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: dangus; NYer
Already passing... As you know, Brazilians have stopped leaving the Catholic Church.

Please source your information. I just spent 20 minutes googling this and cannot find a single reference which supports your claim.

Help please!

110 posted on 05/04/2007 1:30:09 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: OLD REGGIE; NYer
However, with time, lapsed Catholics who have joined Evangelical churches, return to their roots.

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Very interesting. Sources please.

OR: I know you probably just pinged me because I was involved with this post. I know MANY ex-Catholics that are worshipping in Spirit and Truth outide the C church and have no desire to return.

I would be interested in sources too .. NYer?

111 posted on 05/04/2007 1:42:17 PM PDT by proud_2_B_texasgal
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To: dangus

Lutherans know that Christ is truly present in their communion hosts.


112 posted on 05/04/2007 1:48:45 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: kawaii

I’m curious if there’s a pastor in your life.


113 posted on 05/04/2007 1:48:56 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: dangus
I’m curious: What denomination ARE you?

I'm NOT a denomination. I am a human. A Christian. Blood-bought, born again, Spirit filled.

I worship in an Anglican church. *smile*

Thanks for asking.

114 posted on 05/04/2007 1:49:19 PM PDT by proud_2_B_texasgal
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To: dangus; marsh_of_mists
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1828321/posts

Not much to hang your hat on is it?
115 posted on 05/04/2007 2:08:07 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: Quix

what good would a pastor be if he suggest that one should converse with folks on a mission to pervert scripture?


116 posted on 05/04/2007 2:12:19 PM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal
OR: I know you probably just pinged me because I was involved with this post. I know MANY ex-Catholics that are worshipping in Spirit and Truth outide the C church and have no desire to return.

I would be interested in sources too .. NYer?


Yes, it was a courtesy ping to you.

I am always more interested in the source/research material than dogmatic, anecdotal, (wishful) "facts".

117 posted on 05/04/2007 2:19:46 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: Quix

anyone who claims to be a pastor and teaches against St Paul is a false prophet btw,

pastor (n.)
1242, “shepherd,” also “spiritual guide, shepherd of souls” (1377), from O.Fr. pastur “herdsman, shepherd” (12c.), from L. pastorem (nom. pastor) “shepherd,” from pastus, pp. of pascere “to lead to pasture, graze,” from PIE base *pa- “to tend, keep, pasture, feed, guard” (see food). The spiritual sense was in Church L. (cf. Gregory’s “Cura Pastoralis”). The verb in the Christian sense is from 1872.


118 posted on 05/04/2007 2:22:35 PM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: kawaii

I rebuke such an allegation applied to me in the Name of Jesus.

Interesting. Incredible.


119 posted on 05/04/2007 2:35:13 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: kawaii

All I said was . . . I was curious if you had a pastor.

My impression was that you did not.

It appears that my impression is confirmed.


120 posted on 05/04/2007 2:36:26 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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