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To: stripes1776
Then why have Fundamentalist and Pentecostal denominations escaped this nonsense?

There is undisputably a weakness in the liturgical churches that makes them more vulnerable. My personal theory is that the high level of ritualism implies that religious truth is allegorical, while churches with few or no rituals (often accused of "rationalism") have no need to redefine "allegories" they don't believe are allegories to begin with.

24 posted on 04/29/2007 5:28:41 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Please pray for the refu'ah shelemah of Yehudah Ben Rivqah, father of Binyamin Jolkovsky.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

>>Then why have Fundamentalist and Pentecostal denominations escaped this nonsense? <<

Who says they have? Ever been to a black Pentecostalist church?

Some churches are more conservative because they are comprised of conservatives fleeing mainline denominations, but they are becoming perverted by leftists (Rick Warren as a great example) at alarming speed. They are created out of conservatives; There’s nothing in the structure of such churches which make them remain so.


29 posted on 04/30/2007 3:34:20 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Then why have Fundamentalist and Pentecostal denominations escaped this nonsense?

They were founded to escape that nonsense. Historically, the nonsense came first; fundamentalism started as a reaction to it.

My personal theory is that the high level of ritualism implies that religious truth is allegorical

I think that's a nonsensical theory.

40 posted on 04/30/2007 8:02:18 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I don’t think a liturgical basis necessarily makes a denomination more liberal than others.

Catholics and Orthodox both have as much (or more) ritual than Episcopalians, Lutherans, Methodists and Presbyterians, but I am not aware of Catholics and Orthodox struggling with issues of gay clergy.

But since I am neither Catholic nor Orthodox, I could be mistaken.


41 posted on 04/30/2007 9:00:06 AM PDT by fgoodwin (Fundamentalist, right-wing nut and proud father of a Star Scout!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Then why have Fundamentalist and Pentecostal denominations escaped this nonsense?

Because people in these denominations have never accepted the new propaganda of the education system.

There is undisputably a weakness in the liturgical churches that makes them more vulnerable

Methodists and United Church of Christ are not what I would define as liturgical, and yet they have succumbed to the leftist nonsense. Look at the National Council of Churches. It is mostly a left-wing cabal, and most of those churches are not highly liturgical. I don't think liturgy has much to do with it. It has every thing to do with being intellectually pretentious.

54 posted on 04/30/2007 3:51:15 PM PDT by stripes1776
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