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To: ELS
In truth, the characterizing mark of Origen's doctrine seems to reside in his incessant invitation to pass from the letter to the spirit of the Scriptures, to progress in the knowledge of God.

And what does this mean??? It means that Origen determined that a major portion of the bible couldn't be taken literally...His commentaries paved the way for the belief (unbelief) system of the Catholic church...And continues to this day...

Up until Origen, the believers believed what the bible said...And fortunately, many of the heretical believers continued to believe the scriptures...To this day...

9 posted on 04/26/2007 6:12:57 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: Iscool

Yawn.


12 posted on 04/26/2007 7:02:17 AM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: Iscool
Up until Origen, the believers believed what the bible said...And fortunately, many of the heretical believers continued to believe the scriptures...To this day...

First, I assume you mean "unfortunately".

So you're saying the the Almighty, All Powerful, Omniscient, Omnipresent, Creator of All Things can't make sure that one set of letters contains the revelation He intends for His people?

Please!

There are many churches that would rather God's Word said something different than it does. It's man's responsibility to conform to God's will. We're not to form God according to ours.

13 posted on 04/26/2007 7:07:14 AM PDT by pjr12345 (What is it about "The Terrorists want to kill us!" don't you people understand?)
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To: Iscool
In truth, the characterizing mark of Origen's doctrine seems to reside in his incessant invitation to pass from the letter to the spirit of the Scriptures, to progress in the knowledge of God.

And what does this mean??? It means that Origen determined that a major portion of the bible couldn't be taken literally

First of all, why are you asking a question if you are going to answer it yourself? Secondly, your "answer" is nonsense. Have you ever read St. Paul's letters, specifically, 2 Cor 3:6 "Who also hath made us fit ministers of the new testament, not in the letter, but in the spirit. For the letter killeth, but the spirit quickeneth."? As I read it, Benedict and Origen are not saying to ignore the letter of what is written, but rather to go deeper into what the Scripture truly means.

Catholics still believe what the Bible says, unlike many Protestants. For example, John 6:54-59

54 Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. 55 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day. 56 For my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed. 57 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him. 58 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father; so he that eateth me, the same also shall live by me. 59 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead. He that eateth this bread, shall live for ever.

There is not one rule for reading the entire Bible. Some parts are parables, others are direct teachings and some are narrative. Some parts, like John 6, are to be taken literally, which Catholics (and Orthodox) do.

And fortunately, many of the heretical believers continued to believe the scriptures...To this day..

Let's make this more accurate: And unfortunately, many of the heretical believers continue to be heretics...To this day..

15 posted on 04/26/2007 7:17:34 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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ROTLFMAO!

You really can be quite entertaining, you know that? First, you are a Johnny one-note, they always add a little light humor to Freepers. Second, you don’t know what the heck you are talking about, which makes you even more amusing.


18 posted on 04/26/2007 8:02:33 AM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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