Why do you continually take things out of context for the sake of argument. You know that Marysecretary meant that the saints aren't up in heaven praying for us, NOT that they aren't up in heaven.
You also know that Quix isn't talking about seances and conjuring up spirits. (and the spirits aren't "friendly").
A huge part of the ministry that Jesus did on this earth was to help all those who were oppressed of the devil. That included healings, as well as casting spirits out of people.
Is it your contention that spirits were only here to oppress, torment, and make sick those that Jesus could "impress" us by delivering? That they aren't real and here today?
Or, worse yet, do you think Jesus SHOWED us how to operate by the power given through His name and then just left us with NO power to do those things?
No, He was the living example. He left us with the ability to help others. The church fails miserably at that. People are walking around sick and tormented while we set up our alters, do our rituals, and feel good about ourselves.
If the church today would preach and operate in the power that was given us through the mighty name of Jesus, people would be set free, delivered, healed, and FLOCKING to the saving power of Jesus.
Demons and evil spirits are alive and real. The power of Christ to cast them out still exists today.
I'll answer you like I answer unbelievers who emphatically state that salvation is "nonsense".
JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT, DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT REAL.
Actually, I do not know that based upon the original sentence structure and I wanted a verification before I proceeded with the discussion. Accuracy counts, you see.
AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!
GREAT POST. Thanks.
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Marysecretary meant that the saints aren’t up in heaven praying for us, NOT that they aren’t up in heaven.
You also know that Quix isn’t talking about seances and conjuring up spirits. (and the spirits aren’t “friendly”).
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INDEED. One assumes certain levels of mental acuity. Sometimes it seems appearances are deceiving. Or else folks are being deliberately obstinate.
Thanks, texasgal. I appreciate your insight.