[Rhadaghast]

Not so, as usual with such blanket philosophical statements. They refuse to see the uniqueness of man and what individual man can choose. I do believe Paul mentions this in Romans.

Can you be more specific about the reference please, and do you have a different view of man?

[padre35]

Can you be more specific about the reference please, and do you have a different view of man?

I have a similar view of man in general, but not of individuals specifically, in Romans 4.9 Paul is explaining why Abraham was righteous before God, not out of fear of punishment, nor of hope of reward, but because Abraham believed God, he was considered righteous.

To follow your initial statement would require the elimination of Abraham’s acceptance by God just based on belief.