[Iscool]

This does not deny that all salvation comes through Christ and in some way through the church, it said, but it requires a more careful understanding of how this may work.

"We emphasize that these are reasons for prayerful hope, rather than grounds for sure knowledge," it added.

I thank God I am not a Catholic...Imagine, after one thousand and seven hundred years, the earthly 'Holy Father' and his Spirit led magisterium do not know the doctrine of Jesus Christ concerning babies...

And even then, people accept the fact that they are saved, but saved from what??? Not one of 'em knows whether they will end up in heaven when they die...

Parents in particular can experience grief and feelings of guilt when they doubt their unbaptized children are with God, it said.

This is one of the hooks to keep people coming back...Guilt that their babies will go to hell if they die before they get sprinkled with some holy water...

This does not deny that all salvation comes through Christ and in some way through the church, it said, but it requires a more careful understanding of how this may work

Heresy at it's finest...Anyone that puts a church between a sinner and the saving grace of Jesus Christ is a heretic and a minister of Satan...

My advice, get out of that religion and accept Jesus as your savior and He will add you to His real church...After you have been saved...

[Pyro7480]

This isn't about official teaching. This is still a theological debate (one that, thank God, you're not part of).

Heresy at it's finest...Anyone that puts a church between a sinner and the saving grace of Jesus Christ is a heretic and a minister of Satan...

You sound like a Westboro Baptist wannabe.

[Campion]

Anyone that puts a church between a sinner and the saving grace of Jesus Christ is a heretic and a minister of Satan

Fine, then get your church of Iscool out of my way. It gets between me and the saving grace of Jesus Christ.

My advice

Who appointed you to give me advice? You rail against the Pope and then set yourself up as a rival authority to give advice to others?

[smpb]

Mr. Iscool: Ignorance is NOT cool. I am willing make you a substantial bet that you know nothing about what you are talking about. The 1700 years you refer to suggests that you think the Catholic Church began in 300 AD. Do you base this on a study of the history of the early Church? Have you read the writings of Christians of the second and third century. Evidently not, because if you had, you would know that the Catholic Church existed and was called the Catholic Church from the time of the apostles on. The first recorded reference to “the Catholic Church” is in the letters of St. Ignatius of Antioch, a bishop who had learned the faith from St. John himself, and who died as a martyr to the faith in the year 107 AD. St. Polycarp of Smyrna, another important early bishop who was martyred in 155 AD also writes of “the Catholic Church”. The great bishop St. Cyprian of Carthage
(who also died as a martyr, in 256 AD), wrote an entire theological treatise entitled “On the Unity of the Catholic Church”.

Please don’t blaspheme by thanking God for your ignorance. God did not make you ignorant, That was your own doing. Rather, ask God to give you the grace to seek the truth. You are sure you are going to heaven? That means that you don’t “work out your salvation in fear and trembling” as St. Paul told us to do?

Please, before you set yourself up as an authority, learn more.

[StAthanasiustheGreat]

I was wondering where our very own “Johnny one-note” had gone. I was getting worried.

[RobbyS]

Anyone that puts a church between a sinner and the saving grace of Jesus Christ is a heretic and a minister of Satan... How anyone can read the first half of the book of Acts and come to this conclusion is beyond my understanding. If you don't need the Church, then what was the point of Paul's mission?