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1 posted on 04/12/2007 2:24:26 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy
"I respect the memory of the martyrs of the Holocaust but also the memory of the pope,"

I'm sorry, they weren't martyrs... they were victims.

2 posted on 04/12/2007 2:39:54 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Alex Murphy
refusing to sign a 1942 Allied condemnation of the massacre of Jews during World War II

I wonder if Switzerland and Sweden, also neutrals, refused to sign Secretary of State Hull's condemnation?

No castigation prominently displayed for any other neutrals? Hmmmm.

Did Pius refuse to sign because he could not at the same time condemn the slaughter of religious believers by Stalin, the America's ally?

The voice of Pius XII is a lonely voice in the silence and darkness enveloping Europe this Christmas....
He is about the only ruler left on the Continent of Europe who dares to raise his voice at all.
- Editorial, The New York Times, Dec. 25, 1941

3 posted on 04/12/2007 3:13:41 PM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Alex Murphy; blue-duncan; OLD REGGIE; Uncle Chip; wmfights; Petronski; AnAmericanMother; Campion

FYI.


4 posted on 04/12/2007 5:44:30 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...

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7 posted on 04/12/2007 5:57:34 PM PDT by Coleus (Happy Easter, Jesus Christ is Risen, Hallelujah!)
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To: Alex Murphy

St Max Kolbe and the other millions of Catholic martyrs of the Nazis - pray for us!


10 posted on 04/12/2007 6:12:57 PM PDT by Macoraba
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To: Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg; Petronski

Maybe the museum just hasn’t heard yet about those 860,000 Jews that Pius XII personally saved from the death camps.


12 posted on 04/12/2007 6:33:50 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Alex Murphy

This load of horsepucky about Pope Pius and the Jews, which according to recently released documents originated with KGB propagandists at a time when the USSR was worried about the influence of the Papacy on the stability of the Warsaw pact, has been damaging to the reputation of the Church among the ignorant, but it has been far more damaging to the Jews. Most of those who believe this garbage were already Catholic bashers anyway. But it has badly damaged relations between Jews and Catholics.

Israel could use Vatican support, indeed they can use all the moral and political support they can get, but the leftists have continually gone out of their way to offend Christians, spread lies, and insult the Church. In the end, this can only succeed in angering Catholics and making enemies for Israel among people who are trying to be friends. That is NOT a good result. Very self-destructive.


14 posted on 04/12/2007 6:34:48 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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