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To: John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?

About your question...

Seems to me any belief in a “rapture” (pre or post) is not correct according to scriptures.

I think the change (from mortality to immortality) will take place as the Word contained in the 7th trumpet is revealed at His coming.

Then we shall all be changed into the same glory of those who are returning with the Lord Jesus (see also the Epistle of Jude...ten thousands coming back with the Lord).

But until that all takes place, no one will be leaving the earth except through the regular way of dying a natural death.

In other words, there is no rapture at all to take you away from earth. You will either die a natural death, or if you are still alive at His coming, you will be changed by putting on the immortal, spiritual body then.

There won’t be people physically flying off the earth up into the atmosphere. We will just be changed.

Through studying all the end time scriptures (and not just one scripture in I Thessolonians chapter 4), I think the scriptures present this view of His coming.

...or should I say at least something close to God’s view. For now we all definitely see only “through a glass darkly.” I sure don’t claim to have all the answers or anywhere near close to it!


31 posted on 04/14/2007 2:25:04 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: Cedar

After the third chapter of Revelation, the word “Church” does not occur again. Another indicator that the Church is removed from earth by the Rapture with the close of the third chapter and a promise within, “I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.”(Rev 3:10)


32 posted on 04/14/2007 8:28:54 PM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: Cedar

When do you place the 2nd advent? After the tribulation of that day? Where do the 10,000 come from with Christ? Are they pre Christ saints like Abraham and such? Or are they those born of water and spirit?


34 posted on 04/14/2007 11:13:00 PM PDT by John 6.66=Mark of the Beast? ("If God is your Father then I am your Brother" Larry Norman)
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