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To: Frumanchu; P-Marlowe; fortheDeclaration

Read my lips, Fru.

You CANNOT use a verse that says, “This generation shall not pass until ALL these things be fulfilled”

AND

Say that you DO NOT BELIEVE that Jesus has not ALREADY returned.

Jesus’ return WAS ONE OF the prophesied things in that chapter that PRECEDED the statement that ALL these things must be fulfilled.

So, you’ve got 2 choices:

1. You are admitting to playing fast and loose with your proof text

OR

2. You believe that Jesus returned in 70 AD.

Which is it?


61 posted on 04/12/2007 8:52:28 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins
So, you’ve got 2 choices:

1. You are admitting to playing fast and loose with your proof text

OR

2. You believe that Jesus returned in 70 AD.

Which is it?

I've already told you I believe He returned "in a fashion" in 70 AD, but I have also said plainly that there is a future coming of Christ. If you actually understood preterism you would know why I say this, but the interest doesn't seem to be in understanding it but rather in telling me what I believe and painting a distorted of picture of it. Why is it that you dismiss out of hand the notion that the things spoken of were fulfilled yet Christ will still come again in the full and final consumation of His Kingdom and the judgement of all men?

If I say that Christ has come in some fashion in 70AD and will yet come again in full consumation of His Kingdom, why is it to hard for you to accept that maybe...just MAYBE...I actually believe what I say I do and that I believe it is what Scripture teaches?

We could certainly spend the time actually examining the Olivet Discourse and other passages, but that doesn't seem to be your goal here. So far all you've done is lump partial preterists in with full preterists no matter how many times we speak to the clear and important differences between them, and then force us into the false dilemma you've presented.

66 posted on 04/13/2007 5:42:53 AM PDT by Frumanchu (Historical Revisionism: When you're tired of being on the losing side of history.)
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