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To: Frumanchu; Matchett-PI

The reject only the name “full preterist.” They modify the doctrine to be a secret, invisible coming of Christ in 70AD.

Find me one apostle or one early Christian who says that Christ returned in 70 AD.

Just one.

You’d think such a thing would’ve caused a stir.

So far as the author’s observation about preterists and evangelism, he is clearly referring to their tendency to proclaim “preterism” rather than the gospel.


19 posted on 04/12/2007 11:15:44 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins; topcat54; Matchett-PI; Lee N. Field; TomSmedley; Alex Murphy; irishtenor; P-Marlowe; ...
I don't get how dispensationalists insist on literal interpretations and then miss one of the biggest ones by allegorizing it. Most "apostles and early Christians" would have been considered orthodox preterists because they witnessed firsthand the fulfillment of Christ's words...

"Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done." -- Mark 13:30

Satan wants Christians frightened and ineffectual, so Satan encourages us to be afraid of all these impending doomsday scenarios which have ALREADY OCCURRED in history and the ONLY "doom" anyone should be concerned with is their final destination -- heaven or hell.

The Olivet Discourse and Prophetic Fulfillment

"...dispensationalism and it's own idea of a Rapture are the new kids on the block; preterism, and the idea that the Olivet Discourse and other passages refer to 70 AD events, has a much longer pedigree. Commentators such as Lightfoot (1859), Newton (1754), and Gill (1809) predated dispensationlism and agreed that 70 AD was in view in these passages. [Dem.LDM, 59] To be sure, some in the early church held a view that what was recounted in places like the Olivet Discourse was a reference to a far-flung future event (though their views didn't match exactly with dispensationlism); but others held views akin to preterism as well, so the preterist view is not a new view, but an older one revived...

25 posted on 04/12/2007 12:05:14 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: xzins
The reject only the name “full preterist.” They modify the doctrine to be a secret, invisible coming of Christ in 70AD.

You best get your facts straight before you presume to tell me what it is I believe as a partial preterist. Just from appearances, it sure looks to me like your article and arguments have less to do with arguing against partial preterism because you understand it and believe it to be in error and more to do with spiteful reciprocation in the face of an increase lately in the criticism of Dispensationalism. Just from appearances...

31 posted on 04/12/2007 7:29:51 PM PDT by Frumanchu (Historical Revisionism: When you're tired of being on the losing side of history.)
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To: xzins
So far as the author’s observation about preterists and evangelism, he is clearly referring to their tendency to proclaim “preterism” rather than the gospel.

Perhaps for full preterists, but that cannot be rightly said of partial preterists, unless he thinks the majority of his own denomination spends more time preaching their eschatology than proclaiming the Gospel (which only reinforces the foolishness of his statement since it is far from the truth).

32 posted on 04/12/2007 7:32:00 PM PDT by Frumanchu (Historical Revisionism: When you're tired of being on the losing side of history.)
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