I can’t be online much longer, but just a quick observation based on the last week of preterist discussion.
It seems to me that preterist theology is exactly the same as dispensational premillennial theology with an argument over when the return of Jesus took place. Preterists say 70AD, partial preterists say it was sorta 70AD, and premill’s say it’s yet future.
Take premill theology and assume Jesus returned in 70AD and Allegorize/symbolize everything that follows and the similarities are astonishing.
The dividing point is the quasi or real coming of Jesus in 70AD. Which....of course....did not happen. (Acts 1)
Whoa. I'm not a preterist - certainly not full, and probably not partial, but this cannot stand. Ac. 1 has little to add to the discussion, since it was written before 70 A.D., and only talks about the Second Coming, not the judgment and arrival of the Kingdom.
Let's not introduce extraneous proof-texts.
A discussion which you ducked out of, quite abruptly.
I hate to be a pest, but I’m still waiting for you to interpret Matthew 16:28, “Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”
Reminds me of Jesus’ question during the encounter with the chief priests, “The baptism of John--where was it from? From heaven or from men?" And they reasoned among themselves, saying, "If we say, 'From heaven,' He will say to us, 'Why then did you not believe him?'” 26 But if we say, 'From men,' we fear the multitude, for all count John as a prophet." 27 So they answered Jesus and said, "We do not know." And He said to them, "Neither will I tell you by what authority I do these things." (Matt. 21:25-27)
If you say that this “coming of Son of Man in His kingdom” is about some far future event, the Second Coming, then His words make not sense to those people and Jesus was acting as a deceiver. But if you say that it is in reference to an event witnessed by those people in that generation, then you have conceded the possibility, even probability, regarding my point and the phrase “coming with clouds” in Matthew 24 also being witnessed by those people in that generation.
So, which is it, or is there some other possibility?