Posted on 04/07/2007 6:01:45 PM PDT by Pyro7480
With a sad biretta tip to Nihil obstat:
On FattiSentire there is a report of the placards put up in Genova by those who oppose the Church, atheistic anarchist and homosexual activist types. This one from Il Giornale...
...says, "Thank God I am an atheist". It depicts a photoshoped image of partisans shooting the Pope and some muslim men at prayer. Another poster depicts Benedict XVI shaking hands with Adolf Hitler with the title: "From Hitler’s soldier to God’s soldier".
Christ died and rose for these people too.
Meantime, on the evening of the Easter Vigil in Modena there will be a public concert in the square in front of the cathedral by a manifestly anti-clerical band. In one of their their oft-repeated songs we are entertained by the lyrics
"«Bruceremo le chiese e gli altari (...) con le budella dell’ultimo prete impiccheremo il Papa (...) Rivoluzione sia guerra alla società (...) Il Vaticano brucerà con dentro il Papa e se il governo si opporrà rivoluzione» ... "We will burn the churches and altars … we will hang the Pope with the entrails of the last priest … Let revolution be a war on society… The Vatican will burn with the Pope inside if the government opposes the revolution."
"Crucifige! Crucifige eum!"
In Italy, in small and very subtle ways you will encounter anticlericalism, not usually of this vitriolic nature, but it is deeply entrenched in some strata of society. It could be fanned into a flame with some effort.
At the heart of this business is the concept of the "lay state". The concept of the "lay state" in Europe is based on the same state envision in the French Revolution, which resulted in the Terror. The idea of "separation of Church and state" in the USA is a far cry from this European lay state vision.
In the meantime, here are comments of the aforementioned Nihil Obstat (in Italian):
"Behold the fruits of the ‘lay’ state and the campaign of hatred against the Church … Will there ever come a day when the Bishops grasp that the true enemies of the Church are not after all the supporters of the Tridentine liturgy, but rather those who hate Our Lord and struggle against His Kingdom? Is this the highly extolled laicality? Shouldn’t these be the ventures to boycot rather than dig in the heels against the Motu Proprio?"
We have all seen the wrong people hammered into the floor by authorities of different kinds, whether of the First or the other Estates. N’est-ce pa?
"Know thy enemy" might be as critical as "Know thyself". They often overlap.
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You're absolutely right.
Thank God (as it were) that we have a Holy Father who inspires this kind of attack. I don't suppose the legions of evil went after Alexander Borgia in the same way :-).
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Nah. Demonic? Demonic could be celebrating the black Mass with strong sexual overtones like using a harlot for the altar and the rest of it - it would still remain within the religious framework, but with sign inversion. And what they are doing is merely anticlerical.
I take atheists over Muslims any day. Atheists only have a vitriolic tongue, no more. None of the atheists persecute Christians actively as the Muslims do.
Maybe not in recent years, but how do you explain the history of Communist countries?
Or do you want US to forget about him?
look at the chinese “patriotic church” for your answer. A totalitarian state has a knee-jerk need to tame and control everything even remotely important. Once this need [regarding the “patriotic church’] has been satisfied, what need is there for persecutions?
Sorry, the paperback has kind of a dumb cover, but I warmly recommend the novel.
But if you don’t belong to that, you will be in a heap of trouble...Lots of persecution of Christians in China, and a large underground faith community in spite of that...and a lot of going back and forth between the “patriotic church” and the Church aligned with Rome, too.
Happened in Russia as well...lots of persecution of people willing to step out on how they perceived faith, including Roman Catholics.
Demonic behavior doesn’t have to be manifest via religion, you know...American advertising with its blatant appeal to values that are eroding the strength of our country is a good example of demonic behavior, IMHO...More to demonic behavior than merely inversion of religious patterns. The darkness wins if you don’t believe, however that happens. Materialism, self-indulgence, despair, it’s all grist for the mill...
Retards need to speak English.
The same goes for any church service.
\What the hell is the point of a service nobody can understand?
Totalitarian = all or nothing. You either agree or you’re in a heap of trouble!
Nope. Demons exist completely within religious framework. Not for nothing the satan was imagined exacting from witches the homage and veneration due to god - the same religious orientation, but with the opposite sign. Thus breaking out of this framework transcends the demonic, as well as the religious, for outside of the religious framework both lose meaning.
We will have to agree to disagree on that point, but I won’t hold it against you.
[does not know] ought to be [does not care].
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