[ichabod1]

I agree completely, but I will say this. The first Catholic service I ever went to was in the cathedral in St. Louis for a midnight mass, when I was just a kid. There was a barefoot street person there, I remember distinctly, and I was very impressed that the Catholic Church let you come even if you weren’t dressed to the nines. I was in Episcopal church at the time. It still doesn’t excuse laziness and slobbery among the people. One of my favorite quotes is from St. John Vianney... “Nothing we can do is ever good enough for God.”

[Andrew Byler]

There was a barefoot street person there, I remember distinctly, and I was very impressed that the Catholic Church let you come even if you weren’t dressed to the nines.

The Catholic Church is "the people".