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To: Scotswife
“Why not just leave it as Mother of Jesus or Mother of Lord?”

And the difference would be....?

I tried to explain this several times, but one more try. God refers to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. To refer to Mary as the Mother of the Jesus is correct. But to say Mary is the Mother of God says she is also the Mother of the Father and the Holy Spirit, which the Bible does not say and would seemingly be impossible. It may be just semantics on my part, but it strikes me as wrong to phrase it that way.

89 posted on 04/05/2007 5:07:40 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

“I tried to explain this several times, but one more try.”

I understand how you feel.

“God refers to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. “

Yes...but this does not exclude us from referring to God the Father as “God”, God the Son as “God” and God the Holy Spirit as “God” as well.

“To refer to Mary as the Mother of the Jesus is correct.”

and Jesus is God.
Or more specifically, Jesus is God the second person of the Holy Trinity.

“But to say Mary is the Mother of God says she is also the Mother of the Father and the Holy Spirit, “

This is where we disagree, and this would also be a mischaracterization of what the Catholic Church teaches.
In fact - the Church is specifically against what you accuse it of.

“It may be just semantics on my part, but it strikes me as wrong to phrase it that way.”

Yes, I believe it is semantics.
Maybe you would be more comfortable with the Orthodox term “Theotokos” or “God-bearer”. A term given to Mary by the early church to refute the argument we see on this thread - that Christ’s human and divine natures were somehow separate from each other.


115 posted on 04/06/2007 5:58:17 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Always Right; Scotswife
I tried to explain this several times, but one more try. God refers to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. To refer to Mary as the Mother of the Jesus is correct. But to say Mary is the Mother of God says she is also the Mother of the Father and the Holy Spirit, which the Bible does not say and would seemingly be impossible. It may be just semantics on my part, but it strikes me as wrong to phrase it that way.

It's not even correct to call her the mother of The Son. It certainly isn't something He called her or that God calls her in His word.

Mark 3:
32 And a multitude was sitting around Him; and they said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are outside seeking You.” 33 But He answered them, saying, “Who is My mother, or My brothers?” 34 And He looked around in a circle at those who sat about Him, and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! 35 For whoever does the will of God is My brother and My sister and mother.

148 posted on 04/09/2007 6:08:18 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.)
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