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To: Scotswife
All we know experientially and a priori about the nature of material and spiritual reject the notion that a mother creates a soul when she creates a body.

It's really convenient to put a name on an observation of reality and call it a "heresy". Your link is filled with Catholic notions of reality, which I find to be neither scriptural nor observable.

Mary is the mother of the Body of Jesus Whom God inhabited as Christ. Mary did not create God. The notion she did is absurd.

When you gave birth to your children, you built their bodies, not their souls. The notion that is even possible is found nowhere in scripture. Therefore also absurd.

Goodness, lady, do you not read the Bible for yourself? If the magisterium said water runs uphill, would you believe it in spite of what's before you eyes?

59 posted on 04/05/2007 1:15:42 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell

you are again...ignoring the definition of “mother” and arguing facts that are not in dispute.

The article is filled with “catholic notions of reality” because the nestorian heresy was part of catholic history, and recorded by the catholic church.
You are, afterall, not going to get the full historical perspective of Nestorius from a baptist encyclopecia.

“Mary is the mother of the Body of Jesus Whom God inhabited as Christ”

You are separating the two natures of Christ - which is why I consider you a nestorian.

“Mary did not create God. The notion she did is absurd.”

no one made the claim Mary created God.
That notion is indeed absurd. Agreed.

“When you gave birth to your children, you built their bodies, not their souls.”

And yet I am still called their “mother”
That is because being a “mother” does NOT mean that I created them.
It means that I bore them in my womb and gave birth to them.

I didn’t even build their bodies. I don’t know how to build a body.
God built their bodies and their souls.
He just used my womb as an incubator.

” The notion that is even possible is found nowhere in scripture. Therefore also absurd. “

your view is found nowhere in scripture.
What did Elizabeth call Mary?
What did Jesus call Mary?

“Goodness, lady, do you not read the Bible for yourself? If the magisterium said water runs uphill, would you believe it in spite of what’s before you eyes?”

could you try to be more of a jerk?


60 posted on 04/05/2007 1:24:18 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: William Terrell
Mary did not create God

The Council of Ephesus and the Magisterium do not teach that she did.

62 posted on 04/05/2007 1:30:44 PM PDT by annalex
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To: William Terrell
If the magisterium said water runs uphill, would you believe it in spite of what's before you eyes?

The Magisterium says that a man who was tortured to death came back to life on the third day. Yet no living eyes have ever seen anyone come back from the grave. Would you believe it anyway? I do.

Have a blessed Triduum.

100 posted on 04/05/2007 8:10:41 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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