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To: OLD REGGIE

“Well, technically I am a heretic according to the RCC. Would you put me to death as recommended by Aquinas? :-) or :-( “

Not just according to the RCC.
Most mainline christian churches share the same beliefs regarding the Holy Trinity and the human/divine natures of Christ.
These beliefs were passed down through the centuries.
I don’t know much about Aquinas, and as you know the Catholic Church is opposed to putting people to death.

“Would you please cite instances where Jesus experienced life as God while He was still on earth?”

Excellent examples already posted on the thread...read through it.
Jesus spelled it out for us and told us He was God.
Either He was who He said He was, or He was crazy.

But one example that stands out in my head because another poster discussed it with me would be the transiguration.
An excellent example Jesus experiencing both his divinity and humanity.


180 posted on 04/09/2007 9:21:14 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife
But one example that stands out in my head because another poster discussed it with me would be the transiguration.

An excellent example Jesus experiencing both his divinity and humanity.

During this transfiguration process God spoke to the awed and frightened Apostles: "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Hear Him!"

Jesus was presented as the Messiah, not as God.

My question remains unanswered.

To wit: Would you please cite instances where Jesus experienced life as God while He was still on earth?

185 posted on 04/10/2007 8:22:15 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: Scotswife
I don’t know much about Aquinas, and as you know the Catholic Church is opposed to putting people to death.

Are you aware that this opposition to the death penalty is a relatively recent phenomenon?

The last execution for Heresy took place in Spain in 1826.

I agree the Catholic Church is on record as opposing the death penalty. I heartily agree as I am opposed to the death penalty under any circumstances.

The official teaching of the RCC; however, still provides for the death penalty.

Catechism Of The Catholic Church

2267 Assuming that the guilty party's identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor.

If, however, non-lethal means are sufficient to defend and protect people's safety from the aggressor, authority will limit itself to such means, as these are more in keeping with the concrete conditions of the common good and are more in conformity to the dignity of the human person.

Today, in fact, as a consequence of the possibilities which the state has for effectively preventing crime, by rendering one who has committed an offense incapable of doing harm - without definitely taking away from him the possibility of redeeming himself - the cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity "are very rare, if not practically non-existent."


187 posted on 04/10/2007 8:40:42 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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