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Pope says rich nations "plundered" Third World
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| Apr 4, 2007
| Philip Pullella
Posted on 04/04/2007 7:38:32 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy
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posted on
04/04/2007 7:47:23 AM PDT
by
Pyro7480
("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
To: Alex Murphy
The German Pope, who has condemned the effects of colonialism before, said rich countries had also hurt poor countries spiritually by belittling or trying to wipe out their own cultural and spiritual traditions. He does have a point with the above. The UN and its agencies have been doing their best to force abortion and contraception on Third World countries, and much of it is funded by the U.S.
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04/04/2007 7:48:39 AM PDT
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Pyro7480
("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
To: Pyro7480
It sounds more like a typical leftist “anti globalization” rant to me.
Good thing he’s infallible, huh?
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04/04/2007 7:52:21 AM PDT
by
GovernmentIsTheProblem
(Capitalism is the economic expression of individual liberty. Pass it on.)
To: Alex Murphy
Pope has a point. I say we pull out now and let the world fend for themselves. Rise or fall, not our problem. And if they attack us, we wipe them out with a nuke. Simple.
/s
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posted on
04/04/2007 7:53:08 AM PDT
by
MaestroLC
("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
Good thing hes infallible, huh?Why don't you educate yourself about what he's infallible about?
The above is his personal opinion. He wasn't giving an authoritative statement about faith or morals. Catholics are free to disagree. It's not like the Immaculate Conception or the Assumption.
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04/04/2007 7:54:29 AM PDT
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Pyro7480
("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
To: Pyro7480
“Why don’t you educate yourself about what he’s infallible about?”
I was being silly. I still think it’s an anti-globalization rant.
The west has a lot more to offer the 3rd world than Catholicism, such as (well, at least the US) capitalism and liberty. Globalization will improve the lives of 3rd worlders, not hinder it.
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04/04/2007 7:57:18 AM PDT
by
GovernmentIsTheProblem
(Capitalism is the economic expression of individual liberty. Pass it on.)
To: Alex Murphy
Rich countries bent on power and profit have mercilessly "plundered and sacked" Africa and other poor regions and exported to them the "cynicism of a world without God," Pope Benedict writes in his first book. Um...that was the European Catholics, in South America. ;)
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posted on
04/04/2007 7:59:53 AM PDT
by
Mr. Jeeves
("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
To: Alex Murphy
When did the Pope start channeling Jesse Jackson?
To: Alex Murphy
“...rich countries had also hurt poor countries spiritually by belittling or trying to wipe out their own cultural and spiritual traditions.”
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To be fair, we have also tried to teach the third world to do for themselves without a lot of success. We have sent missionaries and lay people to teach abstinence and faithfulness in African countries where AIDS is rampant. We have sent experts to teach how to farm successfully during prolonged periods of drought. All of this has basically fallen upon deaf ears. Oh sure, they may listen very politely, but then they go out and do things the same way they always have. When you ask why, when obviously, what they are doing is detrimental to their well being, they will say, “it’s tradition.” Their stubborn refusal to let go of “tradition” and follow a better way is what is ultimately killing them.
To: Alex Murphy
Sorry Catholics but this guy is so anti-American and evangelical Christian it is scary. He has said incredible things, I am beginning to think he is a little daft. Just get into his speeches that are not widely publicized. Especially those when he visited Mexico.
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04/04/2007 8:04:30 AM PDT
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svcw
(There is no plan B.)
To: svcw
Sorry Catholics but this guy is so anti-American and evangelical Christian it is scary. He has said incredible things, I am beginning to think he is a little daft. Just get into his speeches that are not widely publicized. Especially those when he visited Mexico.Pope Benedict XVI has never visited Mexico as pope. And how is this "anti-American and evangelical Christian"?
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04/04/2007 8:07:05 AM PDT
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Pyro7480
("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
The west has a lot more to offer the 3rd world than Catholicism, such as (well, at least the US) capitalism and liberty.Capitalism and liberty will save their souls?
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04/04/2007 8:07:59 AM PDT
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Pyro7480
("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
To: fatnotlazy
They were doing a lot better before the rise of liberalism and liberation theology. Much like the african-americans in America, the african-americans in Africa were poor but proud, and determined to get better, but liberalism and marxism have destroyed them.
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04/04/2007 8:08:30 AM PDT
by
ichabod1
("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
To: Mr. Jeeves
exported to them the "cynicism of a world without God,"European Catholics did the above? Did you read the last part of the article?
In what could be seen as a strong self-criticism of the Roman Catholic Church, whose missionary activities often went hand-in-glove with colonialism, the Pope writes: "We destroyed (their) moral criteria to the point that corruption and a lust for power devoid of scruples have become obvious."
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04/04/2007 8:09:13 AM PDT
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Pyro7480
("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
To: svcw
I don’t think you know what your’re talking about.
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04/04/2007 8:09:29 AM PDT
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ichabod1
("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
To: Pyro7480
Where do you get that? Secular Humanism is what the rich countries of Europe and America exported to the African-Americans in Africa that gave them the cynicism of a world without God.
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posted on
04/04/2007 8:11:04 AM PDT
by
ichabod1
("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
To: Pyro7480
“Capitalism and liberty will save their souls?”
I don’t believe that souls need saving - I don’t believe that we are born “sinful.”
If you belive that capitalism and liberty are an anathema, why are you here?
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04/04/2007 8:12:16 AM PDT
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GovernmentIsTheProblem
(Capitalism is the economic expression of individual liberty. Pass it on.)
To: Pyro7480
God has indeed blessed us with Pope Benedict.
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posted on
04/04/2007 8:14:24 AM PDT
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trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: ichabod1
No, I was quoting a post above.
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posted on
04/04/2007 8:14:34 AM PDT
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Pyro7480
("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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