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To: Diego1618; XeniaSt; DouglasKC
The Hebrew Festivals of the Lord followed a lunar cycle (not weekly) and the Sabbath in question (beginning the count of the "Omer") was the 15th day of Nisan/Abib.

Wrong --- the "Sabbath" in question is the Saturday, that seventh day of the week, that day of rest that followed Passover. The word "sabbath", that God clearly defined for Moses and the children of Israel over a dozen times in the Law, meant the seventh day of the week, the day of rest. Show me chapter and verse where God ever redefined this word.

Feast of First Fruits according to the Law was Resurrection Sunday [the next day after the sabbath per Leviticus 23:11], and the Feast of Weeks was Pentecost Sunday 7 weeks later, according to the Law of Moses.

We are not talking tradition here, Pharisaical or otherwise, we're talking about what those plain words of Moses mean, not what some Jews imagined that they meant.

Show me where the day after Passover was called a "sabbath" in the Law. It isn't. It is called a "quodesh miqra"--- a holy convocation. The Jews were commanded to "rest" on the sabbath day, the seventh day of the week, but on days of holy convocation, like the day after Passover, they were days of gathering together as the word "miqra" clearly means in Hebrew. There is no escaping its clear meaning and its differentiation from the "sabbath".

[Joshua 5:10-12] And the sons of Israel encamp in Gilgal, and make the Passover on the fourteenth day of the month, at evening, in the plains of Jericho and they eat of the old corn of the land on the "morrow of the Passover", unleavened things and roasted [corn], in this self-same day. And the manna doth cease on the morrow in their eating of the old corn of the land, and there hath been no more manna to the sons of Israel, and they eat of the increase of the land of Canaan in that year. The only way the Israelites could have eaten the produce of Canaan on "The Day After Passover" would be...... if the first day of Passover was the Sabbath referred to in [Leviticus 23:11-15].

Not if Nisan 14 was on Friday, right? That would make Saturday both the sabbath and a holy miqra, and then the next day the Feast of First Fruits when they began to eat of the new harvest. They ate of the old corn until the sabbath was over and until the Feast of First Fruits began on Sunday. Surely you see the symbolical significance of this feast as relates to the Resurrection and the start of a New Covenant.

Too many people have gotten stuck on celebrating Passover and Saturday as the be-all and end-all of all holiness when it is anything but. God has moved on.

When God says that you have circled this mountain long enough, it is time to move on, then you move on. To do otherwise is sin. To make an idol out of "Saturday" and "Passover" when God has moved on to the "next day" and the "Feast of First Fruits" is a bit stubborn. Life moves on after the Passover and the Saturday Sabbath and it rose from the dead after Passover and the Saturday Sabbath.

Sabbatarians brag about keeping their sabbath Saturdays, but how are they doing with their holy miqra Sundays. Most people who go to church on Sunday also rest on Saturday, thus they are not only keeping the Sabbath day holy, but they are also keeping the holy miqra of First Fruits holy on Sunday.

When are the Sabbatarians [Saturday worshippers] going to start keeping the whole Law that they keep trying to wrap around the nexts of everyone else??? Are any of them going to gather together this Sunday to honor the Feast of First Fruits, aka the day of the Resurrection of the Messiah, or are they going to remain willfully disobedient???

211 posted on 04/05/2007 5:12:15 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip; Diego1618; DouglasKC
The Hebrew Festivals of the Lord followed a lunar cycle (not weekly) and the Sabbath in question (beginning the count of the "Omer") was the 15th day of Nisan/Abib.

Wrong --- the "Sabbath" in question is the Saturday,

There is a detailed study of the Feasts if you click here
Baruch HaShem Yah'shua HaMashiach who has become our salvation !
212 posted on 04/05/2007 6:06:50 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Uncle Chip; DouglasKC
Wrong --- the "Sabbath" in question is the Saturday, that seventh day of the week, that day of rest that followed Passover.

[Leviticus 23:6-7] And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD; seven days ye shall eat unleavened bread. In the first day ye shall have a holy convocation; ye shall do no manner of servile work. And....to you, this is not designated as a day of rest? (Passover....or the Day of Preparation, being the 14th)

A Holy Convocation is a Sabbath...a day of rest(Hebrew/Shabbatot). The Apostle [John 19:31] thought it so also, as he designated it here.....as such.

Feast of First Fruits according to the Law was Resurrection Sunday [the next day after the sabbath per Leviticus 23:11], and the Feast of Weeks was Pentecost Sunday 7 weeks later, according to the Law of Moses.

As pointed out earlier...the next day of rest after the 14th would be the 15th. [Leviticus 23:15-16] And ye shall count unto you from the morrow "after the "DAY OF REST"(not called a Sabbath here), from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the waving; seven weeks shall there be complete. Even unto the morrow after the seventh week shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall present a new meal offering unto the LORD.

We are not talking tradition here, Pharisaical or otherwise, we're talking about what those plain words of Moses mean, not what some Jews imagined that they meant.

[Romans 3:2] What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision. Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.

You know.....we could go on like this forever. You are not going to convince me.....and I suppose I'll not convince you. It matters not to our salvation....so let's agree to disagree.

214 posted on 04/05/2007 7:45:39 AM PDT by Diego1618
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