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To: Uncle Chip
heroic actions of those nuns, priests, and others who independently and against the wishes of their superiors

When Angelo Roncalli (later Pope John XXIII; during the war, Papal nuncio in Istanbul) was complimented for saving thousands of Jews by issuing them false baptismal certificates, he said "Everything I have done, I have done in obedience to the Pope."

Jews were sheltered in the Pope's own estate at Castel Gandolfo. Are you going to try to pretend that wasn't on Pius XII's direct orders?

113 posted on 04/04/2007 7:58:44 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Campion
Are you going to try to pretend that wasn't on Pius XII's direct orders?

It's worse than that. He's claiming it was done in defiance of Pius XII.

114 posted on 04/04/2007 8:11:38 AM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Campion
When Angelo Roncalli (later Pope John XXIII; during the war, Papal nuncio in Istanbul) was complimented for saving thousands of Jews by issuing them false baptismal certificates, he said "Everything I have done, I have done in obedience to the Pope."

Was this the same Pope John XXIII who gave that wonderful benediction in 1959 for Ante Pavelich, the Croatian butcher of the Serbs, who had been able to escape justice through those Vatican ratlines into South America?

122 posted on 04/04/2007 8:40:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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