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More Evidence Pius XII Was Not Hitler's Pope - German Files Point to a Russian Plot
Zenit News Agency ^ | April 2, 2007

Posted on 04/03/2007 2:32:00 AM PDT by NYer

ROME, APRIL 2, 2007 (Zenit.org).- Adolf Hitler's No. 1 enemy was the Vatican's secretary of state, Eugenio Pacelli, future Pope Pius XII, according to documents recently found in Europe.

In an article published last Thursday by La Repubblica, reporter Marco Ansaldo announced that he has a dossier on Pius XII that complements documentation found in the Vatican Archives.

According to the newly discovered documents, Pius XII was considered an enemy of the Third Reich. Memos and letters unearthed at a depot used by the Stasi, the East German secret police, show that Nazi spies within the Vatican were concerned at the Pope's efforts to help displaced Poles and Jews.

One document from the head of Berlin's police force tells Joachim von Ribbentrop, the Third Reich's foreign minister, that the Catholic Church was providing assistance to Jews "both in terms of people and financially."

Russia's motives

In a commentary on the new documents, Sister Margherita Marchione, author and expert on Pius XII, explains the campaign against the Pope was the work of the Soviets.

"Russia's plans were to control Europe after the war. The only outspoken obstacle to Russia's plan in Europe was the Catholic Church," Sister Marchione wrote.

"The first attacks claiming that the Church had endorsed silently the atrocities of the Nazis came from Communist Russia," she explained. "Soon to control Poland, and other vast areas in Eastern Europe, Russia saw the need to break the loyalty to the Pope of Catholic majorities in those countries.

"The plan was a simple one: convince everyone that the Pope supported the hated Nazis during the war and, therefore, neither he nor the Church could be trusted after the war. The destruction of the Church would leave the field wide open for Russian influence and control."


TOPICS: Catholic; History; Judaism; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: anticatholicism; bigotry; catholic; germany; hitler; nazis; piusxii; prejudice; revisionism; sanitized
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To: Titanites
Because some members of the Catholic Center Party voted for the Enabling Act does not mean Pacelli forced them to, any more than it means Pacelli forced some members of the other parties to vote for it. To claim that is just silly.

And I guess it was just silly that immediately after the Enabling Act was passed, the Vatican lifted its prohibition against Catholics joining the Nazi Party???

Was that for the benefit of those traitorous elements in the CCP --- the ones who had just sold out their party and their country?

Was that prohibition lifted so that those traitors could now be rewarded for their treachery with Nazi Party membership???

821 posted on 04/13/2007 12:55:29 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Petronski
Hitler's rise to power was NOT accomplished by the Enabling acts.

Wrong --- the Enabling Acts made it a "fait accompli".

822 posted on 04/13/2007 12:59:45 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Wrong --- the Enabling Acts made it a "fait accompli".

It was a fait accompli after the Reichstag Fire Decree was signed February 28:

The decree consisted of six articles. Article 1 suspended most of the civil liberties set forth in the Weimar Constitution — freedom of the person, freedom of expression, freedom of the press, the right of free association and public assembly, the secrecy of the post and telephone, not to mention the protection of property and the home. Articles 2 and 3 allowed the Reich government to assume powers normally reserved to the federal states (Länder). Articles 4 and 5 established draconian penalties for certain offenses, including the death penalty for arson to public buildings. Article 6 simply stated that the decree took effect on the day of its proclamation.

823 posted on 04/13/2007 1:10:14 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Uncle Chip
In fact, I'm not sure you even understand the proper definition and use of fait accompli.
824 posted on 04/13/2007 1:12:26 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Religion Moderator

Zero tolerance on this slanderous thread would mean immediate deletion. You mean zero tolerance for defenders of the Roman Catholic Church.


825 posted on 04/13/2007 1:13:59 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Titanites
How would you have worded it to meet your guidelines?

Perhaps something like this: "The clip from Shirer doesn't support what you said [here] and [there]."
826 posted on 04/13/2007 1:16:19 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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