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To: Blogger
While I don't really see where A-mills get theirs (honestly don't see it, not trying to be insulting here), I certainly respect most of the Amills I have known as dedicated men of God who love Him and His Word.

I'll take a stab at it.

It's tied in with the timing and nature of the resurrection(s). (Deaths too. Pay attention to the parallels between the two in Rev. 20.)

The resurrection of the just and the unjust happens at the same time. "Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment." John 5. We are also told repeatedly by Jesus that He will raise us up "on the last day."

But --- Rev. 20 talks about two resurrections, separated by a "thousand years".

So, what's going on? These two statements (all the dead raised at "an hour" on Judgment Day vs. the first resurrection/second resurrection talk in Rev.) both being from God's theopneustos word, are both true, and have to be reconciled.

Premillenialists, as much as anyone else, have to deal with this. Saying that you have two physical resurrections separated by a thousand years does violence to the John 5 passage. Or do the righteous have to get resurrected again (meaning they've died again)? Or is "an hour" somehow split into two pieces separated by a thousand years?

I'll leave you to chew on that.

Facts are, there are a number of views out there. Only one will be right.

Or none. At most one of a set of mutually contradictory statements can be true.


And, "hang on to your prophecy resources".

(Tongue firmly in cheek. Try this prophecy resource instead. Or this one.)

282 posted on 04/04/2007 8:17:12 PM PDT by Lee N. Field
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To: Lee N. Field

Why couldn’t first and second be referring not to number but to type or order? You have two types of resurrection - one to eternal life, one to destruction. The first type of resurrection being is the resurrection of the saved. The second type of resurrection is the resurrection of the damned. Time wise, Christ will also raise all of the first type before he deals with the 2nd.

Another thing to consider is you can have several “resurrections” and indeed their have been several resurrections throughout history. In reality, the “First” resurrection is likely number 2 or 3 (Jesus, The saints at Christ’s death, and now this resurrection.) Other examples include, the Shunamite woman’s son. Jairus’s daughter. The young man the fell asleep during Paul’s sermon. Tabitha. The raising of the two witnesses. And of course, Lazarus. But they all died again. This is something akin to “second death.” Even though one will likely go through physical death to go through the second death, it is not a given. For example, the antichrist and the false prophet are cast alive into the lake of fire. They obviously taste the second death without first dying physically. At best, their second death is also their first.

If it refers to type rather than number (which I believe is the case), there is no issue whatsoever about the 1000 years. Common sense prevails and no allegory is necessary.I believe there will be at least 3 resurrections of the saved during the Trib. Some go up at the rapture and miss the wrath of God. Others are raised at some point during the tribulation - for it talks about those who had been beheaded for Christ during the tribulation coming to life and reigning with Christ, the rest don’t get resurrected until the 1000 years is up. There also may be a resurrection of the 144,000 in there; but since I don’t see their death it could be some other supernatural manifestation.


283 posted on 04/04/2007 9:19:43 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Lee N. Field
But --- Rev. 20 talks about two resurrections, separated by a "thousand years".

Actually the first resurrection was nearly 2000 years ago. All Christians will have part in the first resurrection.

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:


284 posted on 04/04/2007 10:04:30 PM PDT by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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To: Lee N. Field; Blogger
Premillenialists, as much as anyone else, have to deal with this. Saying that you have two physical resurrections separated by a thousand years does violence to the John 5 passage. Or do the righteous have to get resurrected again (meaning they've died again)? Or is "an hour" somehow split into two pieces separated by a thousand years?

Actually, some theorize as many as three resurrections. One at the pre-trib rapture (second coming part A), one at the premil second coming (second coming part B), and one at the end of the millennium. All potentially involving the righteous.

289 posted on 04/05/2007 6:16:38 AM PDT by topcat54
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