“Did you read Isaiah 13, 9,10 in context? What is the subject? Have you ever read Daniel 7:13,14? What was Jesus saying in Matt. 26:64”
Both the Isaiah and Matthew passages refer to His coming at the end of the age when He will judge the unbelievers. that is yet to come. It was not symbolic. Daniel 7 was a vision of the end of the age. It was a vision and the prophecy is yet to take place.
If this prophecy,(1. “Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:2.And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven:3. and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn,4. and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.5. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet,6. and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”) was not going to be fulfilled what is the purpose of telling them this? Why tell them that “this generation” that was going through intense persecution was going to see the Son of man coming in glory, and their redemption was close and the elect was being gathered, if it was not going to occur in real time? James has this to say about that kind of concern, (James 2:15-16) “If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?”. His words would be “clouds without water over a parched land”.
What you would have people believe is that after the destruction of Jerusalem and the slaughter of the Jews the elects “comfort” comes from a “virtual” imagining of the apparition of the Lord.
I'm sorry, but that is plainly not what the text says. And that is why no dispensationalist uses that text to help interpret Matthew 24 correctly.
The prophecy was made against ancient Babylon, at least that is the correct grammatical-historical context. See verse 1 if you do not believe me.
I’m not surprised you would say otherwise since to admit the correct position would do great damage to the futurist interpretation of Matthew 24.
Daniel 7 was a vision of the end of the age. It was a vision and the prophecy is yet to take place.
Again, you are very wrong. Let’s actually look at part of Daniel 7:
I was watching in the night visions, And behold, One like the Son of Man, Coming with the clouds of heaven! He came to the Ancient of Days, And they brought Him near before Him. Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, That all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion, Which shall not pass away, And His kingdom the one Which shall not be destroyed.There is no need for you to jump forward all the way until the second coming, since this is about Messiah coming to establish His kingdom, which He plainly did at His first coming. And how do we know that? Well apart from the fact that Jesus said as much all over the NT, we also have confirmation right here in Daniel:
Then I wished to know the truth about the fourth beast, which was different from all the others, exceedingly dreadful, … (v. 19)Who is this fourth beast/kingdom? Just back up a few chapters to another vision:Then the kingdom and dominion, And the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven, Shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High. His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, And all dominions shall serve and obey Him.' (v. 27)
But after you [King Nebuchadnezzar] shall arise another kingdom inferior to yours; then another, a third kingdom of bronze, which shall rule over all the earth. And the fourth kingdom shall be as strong as iron, inasmuch as iron breaks in pieces and shatters everything; and like iron that crushes, that kingdom will break in pieces and crush all the others. … (Dan. 2:39,40)The fourth beast, ancient Rome, was vanquished by the power of the gospel in the world, under the authority given to Jesus Christ upon His ascension to the throne room of the Ancient of Days (vv. 13 & 14). He is “stone was cut out of the mountain without hands”. “And whoever falls on this stone will be broken; but on whomever it falls, it will grind him to powder." (Matt. 21:44) Rome was literally ground to powder by the advancing kingdom of Christ under the power of the gospel.And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever. Inasmuch as you saw that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold--the great God has made known to the king what will come to pass after this. The dream is certain, and its interpretation is sure." (Dan. 2:44,45)
Even the dispensationalist knows that the fourth beat is Rome because they have to invent a brand new Roman Empire far in the future just to satisfy this prophecy when they (mistakenly) believe has not been fulfilled. But Rome is gone, never to be resurrected or revived or whatever other silly scenario you may think of.
It’s the insisting without any reference to the actual text that makes no sense to me.
What you would have people believe is that after the destruction of Jerusalem and the slaughter of the Jews the elects “comfort” comes from a “virtual” imagining of the apparition of the Lord.
Your literalist glasses are causing you to expect things not promised in the Bible, at least not in all cases. Jesus “came in clouds” as evidenced by the fact that Jerusalem was destroyed and the high priests killed off. The kingdom was transferred from the old nation to the new nation. The old temple has given way to the new temple. The old priesthood replaced by the new priests.
“But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy.” (1 Peter 2:9,10)
I don’t know how God could have made it any clearer.
"Why do You speak to them in parables?" He answered and said to them, "Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says: 'Hearing you will hear and shall not understand, And seeing you will see and not perceive; For the hearts of this people have grown dull. Their ears are hard of hearing, And their eyes they have closed, Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn, So that I should heal them.' (Matt. 13:10-15)I wonder some times if the modern church has the same affliction of spiritual blindness as ancient Israel. So many Christians are looking for the same carnal results as that generation.