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To: spunkets

"You're seeing things that aren't there. Show me where I attributed the fraud to Catholics."

Trying to alter the argument in midstream, eh? You replied to the remark, “This is a uniquely Catholic thing and I'm not sure why,” by saying “They (Catholics) use imagery in their stories, which largely come from the imagination, not reality . . . I said Photoshop on this one, becsuse it is. The whole beam of light and smoke was applied to the photo. Just like the CtoC folks, they (Catholics) like to promote the illusions.”

Only ignorance can support such arrogance.

The bigoted, offensive, and false statement to which I referred is just above, that “…they (Catholics) like to promote the illusions.”

“No comprende, and too busy to translate it.”

That sort of intellectual laziness probably accounts for a lot.

“No grasshopper, you erred. I posted facts.”

You posted a bigoted, offensive, and false slur of Catholics, and your intellectual laziness shows how you got that confused in the first place.


56 posted on 03/31/2007 12:02:59 AM PDT by dsc (There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men. Edmund Burke)
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To: dsc
Re: You're seeing things that aren't there. Show me where I attributed the fraud to Catholics.

"Trying to alter the argument in midstream, eh? You replied to the remark, “This is a uniquely Catholic thing and I'm not sure why,” by saying “They (Catholics) use imagery in their stories, which largely come from the imagination, not reality ."

My comment referred to see visions in various random patterns on things, such as cheese sandwiches, tears from statues, and water stains on plaster walls, or ceilings, and attributing these things to God. They are not from God. The connection to God is in the imagination. They are not miracles and signs.

Re: I said Photoshop on this one, because it is. The whole beam of light and smoke was applied to the photo. Just like the CtoC folks, they like to promote the illusions.

"(Catholics)"

You stuck the word (Catholic) in there, to describe "they", and it was completely inaccurate. "They" refer to those Catholics, that actually attribute the result of random patterns to miracles and signs from Heaven, AND create them themselves. The image in the story is a fraud, the characters in the story claim to be Catholic. It is frauds such as this, in combination with the claims about random patterns on concrete, grilled cheese and tears from statues that evidence what I said.

"Only ignorance can support such arrogance."

Whatever.

"he bigoted, offensive, and false statement to which I referred is just above, that “…they (Catholics) like to promote the illusions."

There's no bigoted comment in anything I said. Your reading comprehension was simply effected by what you imagined I said, not what was actually said. If you found offense in my conclusion, that these alleged miracles and signs are nothing more than a combination of random outcomes of physical processes, and imagination, or outright fraud, tough.

Now some people, who are Catholics, will say they are miracles. Others, who are Catholics also, will simply say that they might be and take them as serious mysteries and revere, such things as random patterns of physical processes, as if they were relics of a miracle. Others who are Catholic, will say they are not. The thread was posted as a mystery and treated as a possible miracle, which simply adds to the evidence that these visions are promoted as micacles, and the imagination involved in creative story telling is definitely being promoted. Mystery is promoted, reality is not.

Re: “No comprende, and too busy to translate it.”

" That sort of intellectual laziness probably accounts for a lot."

Busy does not equal lazy. Speak English.

"You posted a bigoted, offensive, and false slur of Catholics, and your intellectual laziness shows how you got that confused in the first place."

Whatever. The photo from the former cop, who is Catholic, is a Photoshop fraud in the form of a low resoltion jpg to make it appear real. It is deception, and it was done to further the lengthy list of fictional stories claimed to be miracles, that inspired it in the first place.

57 posted on 03/31/2007 2:48:26 AM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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