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To: MarkBsnr
HELL is a place where sinners really do burn in an everlasting fire

Hell is a place?

5 posted on 03/28/2007 6:25:43 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50

Hmm. Good point.

I'm going to have to look at his actual speech.


6 posted on 03/28/2007 6:51:15 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (When you believe in nothing, then everything is acceptable.)
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To: kosta50
Hell is a place?

Pretty sure the Pope isn't espousing Annihilationism. What else do you envision Hell being, besides a "place"?

7 posted on 03/28/2007 7:23:31 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: kosta50
HELL is a place where sinners really do burn in an everlasting fire

This is a poorly written, fallacious opening sentence. In fact, it's contradicted by the pope later on in the text. He says that hell is not a literal "place", but a state of existence in which man is totally and eternally seperated from God. He also doesn't say that they physically "burn" there, either. The author of this article is a moron.

19 posted on 03/28/2007 11:41:46 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: kosta50; MarkBsnr; Alex Murphy; MHGinTN; ArrogantBustard; Rutles4Ever
The text of the Holy Father's homily is posted on the Vatican Web site. So far, it is only in Italian, the language in which Benedict XVI gave the homily.

The pertinent words are in the penultimate paragraph:

"E’ venuto Gesù per dirci che ci vuole tutti in Paradiso e che l’inferno, del quale poco si parla in questo nostro tempo, esiste ed è eterno per quanti chiudono il cuore al suo amore."
The English translation is
"Jesus came to tell us that He wants us all in heaven and that hell - of which so little is said in our time - exists and is eternal for those who close their hearts to His love."
Nowhere in the original Italian is the word that means "place." The most common Italian words that mean place are "luogo" and "posto."
24 posted on 03/29/2007 8:55:30 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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