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To: conservonator
John 14:16-17 16And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

2Co 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

We Christians have the very same Spirit in us that you claim your magisterium has...So you can't pull that one...

8 posted on 03/23/2007 8:51:02 PM PDT by Iscool (There will be NO peace on earth, NOR good will toward men UNTIL there is Glory to God in the Highest)
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To: Iscool
We Christians have the very same Spirit in us that you claim your magisterium has...So you can't pull that one...

Which "Christians"? The ones that go to your church, how about the ones down the block that don't believe that baptism is necessary, or how about the ones that do believe that baptism is not only not symbolic, but absolutely required. How about the Christians that believe in double predestination, or the believers in free will, or those who believe that you can lose salvation as opposed to the church next door that believe once saved always saved...the list goes on and on.

Christ delivered one truth, one faith, that faith, that truth is not found in it's fullness outside His Church.

Like I said, we may not like how He delivers on His promise, but that doesn't mean He hasn't delivered on the promise; a Father doesn't abandon His children to the winds of error.

11 posted on 03/23/2007 9:01:09 PM PDT by conservonator (Pray for those suffering)
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To: Iscool
The Triune God is perfect and He has ordered everything. And so it is that the Gospels and Jesus Christ are the beginnings of the Son's time with us, everything follows that and must not prescind that which came before. When nonCatholics argue from Paul without understanding the full meaning as established earlier by Christ,things just don't hang together.

Incidentally,you have never responded to my question to you with regards what in the world you think Christ was talking about in Rev.2 and 3,when He speaks about the works that many of the Churches did or failed to do. When you are unable to answer because you recognize that the scripture does not support your position,you just sail on to the next presumption.

We will never be one with God,as He desires, if we all don't earnestly and honestly pray that God guide us in our discernment.

15 posted on 03/23/2007 11:45:55 PM PDT by saradippity
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