[Iscool]

So where was the Church until Luther? Are you rehasing the tired old argument that an underground Church of true believers existed that was hunted and persecuted by the Catholic Church. That Cathars, Lollards, Hussites and then Protestants are visible examples of that Church?

It's only a tired old argument if you are a Catholic that followed Linus and Clement instead of Paul and Timothy...

[StAthanasiustheGreat]

Then where is it? Point it out, show us the way. You can't. Who came after Timothy and Titus? If you invent history, at least have something to trace to today. You can't. History is not on your side. Funny, Ireneaus and Polycarp followed Peter and Linus, and they were disciples of John. Guess that puts John in the Peter camp by your logic of course.

[Campion]

Linus and Clement were Catholics who followed Paul and Timothy (Paul mentions both of them in his letters), but don't let that stop you from inventing silly strawmen all over the place.