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We need to stop pornography, now
Denver Catholic Register ^ | March 21st, 2007 | Archbishop Charles Chaput

Posted on 03/21/2007 9:14:58 AM PDT by Frank Sheed

A friend recently quipped to me that if Americans were as good at the “war on terror” as we are in our “war on common sense,” the world would be a much safer place. He was talking about our country’s increasingly confused attitudes toward sex.

Last week offered a good example. In an interview with the Chicago Tribune, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Marine Gen. Peter Pace, said that “I believe that homosexual acts between individuals are immoral and that we should not condone immoral acts. I do not believe the United States is well-served by a policy that says it is OK to be immoral in any way.”

Note that Pace did not say that, “homosexual persons are evil.” He said that homosexual acts are wrong. And of course he’s right. We might question the general’s choice to comment in the context he did, but not his content. He simply stated the Western moral tradition. We should respect his courage for saying it. Every human being has an inalienable dignity as an image of God. But as part of that dignity, we also have free will, and our choices — our behaviors — create wholeness or havoc around us, depending on their moral content.

Our sexual behavior is never merely a “private” matter. Human sexuality is deeply linked to issues of identity, fertility and new life. Our sexual behavior always has social implications because it directly or indirectly impacts others. Therefore it helps shape the wider culture. This is not a uniquely Christian point of view. Most Americans clearly agree with Gen. Pace. The only thing strange about his remarks was the theatrical wave of shock they generated from critics. In fact, with the good exception of Sen. Sam Brownback and some others, many members of Congress scrambled to criticize Gen. Pace — despite the moral beliefs of the people who elected them.

The bickering over Gen. Pace is just an icon of wider problems. The sexual confusion at the top of U.S. society now has an echo in every corner of American life. Sexually transmitted disease, child sexual abuse, adult Internet predators, divorce, cohabitation and nearly every other indicator of a dysfunctional society stand at epidemic levels. But very few people want to name the biggest single environmental crisis we face: a multi-billion dollar pornography industry that pours garbage into our homes every day through the Web and other media.

Forty years ago, when steel mills pumped hundreds of tons of toxic waste each week into the Great Lakes — literally “killing” Lake Erie and damaging the health of tens of thousands of families — citizens got organized. They forced the mills to clean up or shut down. We need to do the same today. Citizens need to stop the pornography industry now — not out of some kind of Victorian prudery, but because pornography poisons the human heart, imagination and soul just as those steel mills once poisoned our air and water, only worse.

Pornography is never “innocent entertainment,” no matter how private it might seem. It turns human beings into objects. It coarsens our appetites. It darkens our ability to see real human beauty. It creates impossible expectations about sexual intimacy. It kills enduring romance and friendship between the sexes. And ultimately it’s a lie and a cheat. Pornography is a cheap, quick, empty copy of the real thing — the real joy of sexual intimacy shared by a man and woman who have joined their lives in a loving marriage.

In recent months, two Catholic bishops have begun some extraordinary work against pornography in their Midwest dioceses: Bishop Robert Finn of Kansas City-St. Joseph, Mo., and Archbishop Joseph Naumann of Kansas City, Kan.

Bishop Finn’s excellent pastoral letter, “Blessed Are the Pure in Heart: The Dignity of the Human Person and the Dangers of Pornography,” has a wealth of good information about the scope of pornography, the damage it does and many practical tips to fighting it in our homes. Archbishop Naumann’s anti-pornography initiative, “As for Me and My House, We Will Serve the Lord,” includes a DVD and workbook with valuable resources for fighting pornography, teaching chastity and wholesome sexuality, and helping others who have been hurt by pornography addiction.

We can’t do much to fix the sexual confusion at the top of our society, beyond writing to our elected officials and demanding candidates who will advance our convictions when the time comes to vote. But we can do a lot about the poison in our homes and local communities. Pornography is poison. It should be controlled like any other toxic waste. And don’t be fooled. This isn’t “censorship.” It’s a matter of public health and common sense.

Bishop Finn’s pastoral letter can be found online at www.diocese-kcsj.org; click on “Bishop,” then on the pastoral letter. For information on Archbishop Naumann’s anti-pornography initiative, contact the Archdiocese of Kansas City, Kan., at 913-721-1097.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: culturalsuicide; generalpace; immorality; moralabsolutes; moraldecline; porn; pornography
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To: mockingbyrd
I know from personal experience that porn can create and fuel violent tendecies in users.

It must be some totally different kind of porn than I've seen. The fact that someone would look at violent porn indicates to me that he is violent. It seems to me that it is false logic to find a commonality like porn in prisoners and they conclude that the porn is the cause.

It's like finding that people in bar fights are very likely to be into weight lifting, therefore weight lifting causes bar fights. The numbers imply a proof but it is a faulty proof.

161 posted on 03/22/2007 8:48:58 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.)
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To: rzeznikj at stout
That is a concern. However, most discretionary criteria in American law revolves around the "average, reasonable American, applying x standard"

As much as I hate to say it, it's going to be unavoidable. We can try to minimize it by taking a moderate approach, but does that really solve the problem in the end?

Not likely. Reading back through the posts just on this thread there seems to be an underlying perception that pornography is already pervasive, and that we should hold that as evidence that the "average, reasonable American" isn't fit to make that determination or we wouldn't need to be having this debate.

162 posted on 03/22/2007 8:52:37 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Well, since those people make up probably over 80% of American society, who then should make that determination?

Look, it's not going to be perfect. But it will be better than right now--which is having absolutely nothing.

It's going to have to start with them, build a consensus, and then slowly work around it.


163 posted on 03/22/2007 8:56:59 AM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: rzeznikj at stout
Well, since those people make up probably over 80% of American society, who then should make that determination?

In a self-governing nation the answer to that should be self-evident.

Look, it's not going to be perfect. But it will be better than right now--which is having absolutely nothing.

We have a fair amount of control over public venues at the local level, and control of what we do personally. Sometimes I think the federal bureaucrats have managed to convince people that their claims that if you can't regulate everything, you can't really regulate anything actually have merit.

It's going to have to start with them, build a consensus, and then slowly work around it.

They weren't call "laboratories of democracy" for nothing.

164 posted on 03/22/2007 9:09:19 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

And I already stated it, but you just said not too long ago that the "average, reasonable American" should NOT be making that determination.

"We have a fair amount of control over public venues at the local level, and control of what we do personally. Sometimes I think the federal bureaucrats have managed to convince people that their claims that if you can't regulate everything, you can't really regulate anything actually have merit."

I'm against any and all government regulation on people's activities above and beyond what's absolutely necessary. We can argue until the cows come home whether regulating "porn" is necessary.

That said, it's something that ought to be done, the moral decay of society has reached a point where doing something is infinitely better than doing nothing at all.


165 posted on 03/22/2007 9:14:44 AM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: rzeznikj at stout
And I already stated it, but you just said not too long ago that the "average, reasonable American" should NOT be making that determination.

Maybe I wasn't clear. I meant (and thought I said) that some of the posts on this thread seem to indicate that perception exists among some of the participants. I did not say that I shared it.

166 posted on 03/22/2007 9:18:39 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: DungeonMaster
I must admit, my viewing of porn has been limited to two mistakes with Internet searches. I intentionally avoid such situations, near occasions of sin and all that.

Porn dehumanizes, porn objectifies. Which can affect the way the user treats other people. And what once was titillating enough grows old and pushes the user to more and more extreme forms.

Bondage porn, with completely willing participants, fueled serious attacks against two of my student. It was considered "tame" by those who wanted to defend the garbage, but it cause terrible damage to the user and his victims.

In all honesty, I am going to go with Ted Bundy's thoughts of porn and its effects on violence against woman than yours. I think he knows more of which he speaks.
167 posted on 03/22/2007 9:33:47 AM PDT by mockingbyrd (peace begins in the womb)
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To: Dante3; Cold Heat
Get a grip on yourself.

Bad choice of words, in a thread about pornography.

168 posted on 03/22/2007 9:34:39 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: tacticalogic

"and that we should hold that as evidence that the "average, reasonable American" isn't fit to make that determination"

These are your words, sir. I don't think you couldn't be clearer.


169 posted on 03/22/2007 9:41:06 AM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: Alex Murphy

:-) (he could go blind!)


170 posted on 03/22/2007 9:44:17 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Mitt....2008)
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To: rzeznikj at stout
These are your words, sir. I don't think you couldn't be clearer.

The post is still there.

If I can't convey to you and have you understand the difference between expressing an assesment of someone else's opinion, and holding that opinion myself then I don't see much future in continuing this.

171 posted on 03/22/2007 9:49:34 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: mockingbyrd
In all honesty, I am going to go with Ted Bundy's thoughts of porn and its effects on violence against woman than yours.

I guess you've chosed your counsel.

172 posted on 03/22/2007 9:58:22 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.)
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To: trisham
Have you ever asked a priest for relationship or sexual advice? I haven't, but it's not the kind of thing I am likely to do, being the shy and retiring type.

Are you a married person? Did you not go to pre-cana?

173 posted on 03/22/2007 10:00:11 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: AnAmericanMother
They know more about all the trials and troubles of marriage and the depths of the human heart than any one of us . . . a good part of their job is to hear (and forgive) people's most secret sins that they would never tell to anyone save under the absolute seal of the confessional . . .

Bravo Sierra! The only way you can learn about being married, truly, is to be married, or to have been married. Take what you're saying and apply it to the secular world: What you're saying, more or less, could be applied to psychiatrists---they should "know more" about the human condition because people spill their guts to them.

Yet we all know pyschiatrists are often most in need of psychiatry themselves. If you trust a psychiatrist to govern your heart, or give you sound, solid, unbiased advice about what's best for you, let me know---you might be interested in purchasing the deed to the Zakim Bridge from me.

174 posted on 03/22/2007 10:06:00 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Piers-the-Ploughman
Habitual porn users have loneliness or ego issues which have tempted him to seek porn as a way out. Such solutions of course are entirely bogus. Jesus Christ is easily the answer to loneliness and correction of an ego problem will be found if someone, maybe a priest, could tell him why he was ever born, that Christ himself came to serve, not to be served.

Oh, brother. Just because you are petrified to death of your sexual urges doesn't mean sexual urges all come from Satan.

175 posted on 03/22/2007 10:08:33 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: tacticalogic

No, I believe you were unequivocally clear in that opinion (which, btw, is not merely the assessment of somebody else's own opinion).

And I demonstrated that holding this opinion and supporting the opinion that we need to do something about "porn" are mutually exclusive. Therefore, there's no point in continuing this, er, conversation...


176 posted on 03/22/2007 10:34:46 AM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
The problem with psychiatry is that it's not rooted in morality or religion. It's missing a dimension, and a very important one.

Also, psychiatrists only talk to the critical cases - it costs money to see a shrink, but the priest is always there for everybody, the untroubled, the mildly troubled, and the very troubled.

The idea that you can only learn about marriage by being married is the same thinking that promotes the idea that only black people can understand "black issues", only women can understand how women think, etc. and nobody else is qualified to have an opinion or voice one. It flies in the face of the universality of the human condition.

And I wonder how many married couples have actually thought in depth about the transcendental meaning of marriage, as the late Pope John Paul the Great did in his masterful study of the theology of the body . . .

177 posted on 03/22/2007 10:35:06 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: rzeznikj at stout
No, I believe you were unequivocally clear in that opinion (which, btw, is not merely the assessment of somebody else's own opinion).

And I demonstrated that holding this opinion and supporting the opinion that we need to do something about "porn" are mutually exclusive. Therefore, there's no point in continuing this, er, conversation...

Being in a position to know for certain whether that is actually my opinion or not, I can also say for certain that you have misunderstood what my opinion is.

If you are unwilling to accept my own assesment of what my opinion is, then you are correct. There is no way this "er, conversation" can continue in a rational manner. Nor could any "conversation" under such circumstances.

178 posted on 03/22/2007 10:50:22 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

There's no misunderstanding. Your position is clear, and anyone reading this thread can see that.

Moreover, you're not assessing anything--that much is obvious.

It's clear this dialogue is going nowhere. I'm out.

Have a nice day.


179 posted on 03/22/2007 11:26:06 AM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: rzeznikj at stout

Have a nice day.


180 posted on 03/22/2007 11:35:52 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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