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Posted on 03/14/2007 6:29:56 AM PDT by NYer
And many other souls, as well.
That said, I thought I heard Sean say that he found it perfectly acceptable for non catholic teens to use contraception because it's better than abortion.
When a caller stated that contraception is not guaranteed to be effective and then abortion would be the next step Sean seemed to suggest that the risk was acceptable to him.
He went on to say that he teaches his children differently. Sean's kids are five and eight if I'm not mistaken. I would hate to think he is giving them condom advice.
It would seem that Sean was suggesting that teaching about condoms is okay in the schools as long as it's not taught to catholic children.
I heard a good part of that program and was totally dismayed by the tone and the illogic of the arguments Sean was making.
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Yes. Exactly right. It is the good Father's obligation to speak up.
Fr. Euteneuer obliged and began a reasoned, calm presentation of his case. "One is simply obliged not to be a heretic in public. That's the point,"
In publicly promoting contraception, Hannity may be leading others astray.
As a seminary rector, I would sincerely hope that you are not teaching by word or example the young men in your charge to be politically correct sissies who are afraid to roll up their sleeves and defend the Church in private and in public. We have tons of those types in the clergy already.
That is absolutely priceless!
And when Sean Hannity pulls out the line, "I went to the seminary. I studied theology. And Latin!" we need to remember that he's talking about the HIGH SCHOOL SEMINARY of the DIOCESE OF ROCKVILLE CENTER, for God's sake!
A well-known bastion of orthodox theology and ecclesiastical Latin!
When Sean went there, they were probably using the Sadlier how-to-make-a-collage "catechisms," and I would imagine that the extent of the Latin studied was the chorus to Immaculate Mary - if that.
You know what kills me? No one asks why Sean brought him on the show. Sean throwing in the scandals a few times didn't help.
Also, Sean is the first one to jump all over Pelosi, Kerry and others re: receiving communion while sleeping with Planned Parenthood and NARAL.
Sean doesn't get it... in his pride he doesn't see it's about his soul, not what people think of him or if he's embarrassed... I guess they left that part out at Sean's seminary.
What does contraception do?
I'm on the floor... my thoughts exactly. LOL
You should look to see the mechanisms that the birth control pill and the IUD use prior to making a blanket statement such as that. Those two methods are inherently abortifacients.
Relevant Radio had Fr. Tom Euteneuer on yesterday at about 4 to 5 central time to talk about his appearance on H&C. This morning Fr Mich Pacwa said something about this as well. Both shows were a good discussion on cafeteria catholics and not simply a session to beat up Sean.
There are many kinds of Contraception, not all involve killing babies. Some block the sperms (condom), or change the female hormonal situation by preventing ovulation (e.g. implant), so there's no fertilization. If there's no fertilization take place, there's no baby produced. Abortion, however, obviously involves something to terminate the baby... This is if we believe that life starts from the conception. So, to be sure, there are many contraception that do terminate the baby.
I may be wrong, but I believe Catholic Church allows natural contraception, e.g., "calendar system."
Used correctly, no contraceptive in the world has a 100% success rate. (Unless you count abstinence, and the Church has no objection to that one.) The effectiveness of condoms used correctly is only 85%.
Even the Supreme Court in the Casey decision justified abortion by arguing that it was necessary as "backstop" contraception.
??? Ovulation occurs before fertilization; implantation occurs after fertilization.
All hormonal contraceptives have at least the potential to prevent implantation. (That's according to the package inserts that come with the drug; i.e., according to the manufacturer.) If you believe that life begins at conception (as you should), that means they can, sometimes, work by causing an early abortion.
It is wrong to say that the Catholic Church allows contraception, even "natural" contraception, which is an oxymoron in itself. The Catholic Church does allow for natural forms of birth control.
The Church's teaching included that is it never morally permissable pervert the sexual act, that is to sterilize it which is what contraception does. With natural forms of birth control, there is no act to pervert, wherein lies the difference.
It DOESN'T matter that both can prevent pregnancy. It DOES matter that one involves the sterilization of the act of love, which should always mirror the life giving love of the Father, and the other does not.
Catholic church views most contraceptives as abortive of a vial fetus, whether newly fertilized egg (the pill, etc.) or later. The key is life begins at conception and anything used to end that life is against Catholic teaching. Using condoms, etc., is against the Church because it believes that procreation is the purpose of sexual intercourse - and that teaches us not to waste seed. Any Catholics more knowledgable than I please correct me if I am wrong but this is how I understand it.
I'm still not convinced that using condom warrants a same treatment as promoting legal abortion. They both may be against the Church teachings, but defying communion is a serious punishment.
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