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To: Alamo-Girl; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg
Indeed. And some of that might involve visiting His Creation - past, present or future - to appreciate better what He has done

I think you are thinking like a human, AG. It seems you believe that all our afterlife will be spent entartaining us. True love is always and only concerned with the one who is loved, not the one who loves.

742 posted on 03/16/2007 5:59:04 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; Mad Dawg; Marysecretary; pgyanke
That is, however, the final station, not something happening here and now. That's why we will be given new bodies to clothe the soul before we exist the train. Our souls will be judged and either forgiven (cleansed) or rejected (condemned) based on what we have done.

With cleansed souls and new bodies we will be born, again, — in the world to come!

The Protestant notion that this is all taken care of here and now is appealing, and assuring, but sadly mistaken.

I can only testify to what I know to be true in my walk with the Lord. Your walk with Him may be different, but that is to be expected. We are not “cookie cutter” Christians.

kosta50, I am not at all like the person I was before Christ “knew” me. Back then I was self-serving, mean, rude, hateful, vain. No one wanted to be around me, I was truly unlovable. When I describe myself as a filthy, scraggly little goat, half-eaten, bruised black and bloodied hanging out of a wolf’s mouth when I heard the Master’s call – I am not kidding.

The person I am now is a brand new “me” that never existed before then - and exists not alone but by the power of God. I am more aware of being alive in Him than in the flesh. And I have experienced Him personally in precisely this fashion for nigh onto a half century.

IOW, the new me is spiritual, not physical, and already exists with Christ in God - in timelessness - even though I am yet anchored to this body. Someday I will weigh anchor from this physical body. The physical body will die, the spiritual body will not.

But while I’m still anchored to the body, the natural “me” rears her head now and again and I stumble. When this happens, I confess it, pray for His healing – and He always picks me up just like a loving father would when his child has injured herself.

As I've mentioned before, I pray "up papaw, pweese" like a toddler. I want to be transparent in Him, not wiggle down and play with other lambs in the pasture. Every time I do, I get hurt.

Over the years I have learned that I am in control and can choose to reject the urgings of the natural me. Pride, ego and vanity are the “cross-eyed bears” of the natural me - but they are no longer the boss of me, the living me, the spiritual me.

Salvation occurred in an instant for me, kosta50 – but sanctification has been a very long walk.

As to how He might choose to anchor me in the future Messianic age on earth – or the new heaven and earth – I cannot say, but I’m sure it’ll be according to His will. Christ appears in different forms in Revelation, but He remains Christ.

Perhaps He will give me a new physical body for an anchor. Or perhaps He’ll let me fly without a physical body. Perhaps both. Or perhaps He’ll merge me into someone else. Or perhaps He’ll make me stationary.

I don’t know the answer. But I know Him and I trust Him and therefore I am very sure it’ll be beautiful.

Or maybe it is just Gnostic Paul speaking. We do not have the mind of Christ, with all due respect to the man who saved Christianity.

Again, I can only testify to what I know to be true in my walk with the Lord. Your walk may be quite different from mine and that’s ok because we are not “cookie cutter” Christians.

I do experience the mind of Christ as described above. Moreover, I easily recognize others who have the same mind. And we speak a different language, a spiritual language which the natural man cannot understand.

It saddens me that you reject Paul.

Of a truth, we individually make the scales whereby we shall be judged. By whatever measure we judge others, we’ll be judged. By whatever measure we condemn others, we’ll be condemned. By whatever measure we are merciful, we shall obtain mercy.

Likewise, if we believe a certain thing is sinful – then for us, it is – and we’ll be judged by whether or not we do the thing willfully having that belief. I imagine the Amish will be judged by a different standard than the Catholics than the Southern Baptists and so on.

And since you reject Paul, I’m certain that will figure into your personal scales but how I cannot say.

me: Indeed. And some of that might involve visiting His Creation - past, present or future - to appreciate better what He has done

You: I think you are thinking like a human, AG. It seems you believe that all our afterlife will be spent entartaining us. True love is always and only concerned with the one who is loved, not the one who loves.

If someone you love creates a work of art, surely you’d be interested in seeing it because you love him/her. And if you enjoy it, then surely your beloved will be pleased.

759 posted on 03/16/2007 8:46:22 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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