[Quix]

No, the way we are is not the way God made us. Otherwise, Christ would have come for no reason whatsoever. We are a poor apporximation at best what God made us. A fallen, tarnished figure of a once glorious creation.

It is NOT the case that satan's sin infections can obliterate our personalities [except maybe in hell]

PARTICULARLY when redeemed, washed in CHRIST'S BLOOD;

MATURED AND FURTHER REFINED AND PERFECTED BY HOLY SPIRIT.

You must have a pretty puny God to think that the personalities HE SO CAREFULLY DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED; REDEEMED AND MATURED

can be so easily obliterated even by satan or us or the world.

God is not at all schlocky at what He does. NO WAY hozay!

[kosta50]

PARTICULARLY when redeemed, washed in CHRIST'S BLOOD

You are following the 11th century Anslem's doctrine of satisfaction redemption that is alien to me. It was unknown to the Church for 1,000 years.