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To: Alamo-Girl
Likewise.

But alas, we are mere mortals and thus easily distracted - so we have to be ever diligently removing the weeds in our lives

Agree. In this life. But once restored to our original created state before the Fall, we should be able to resist distractions and focus on God all the time, thereby neglecting our own needs and desires. Thus, out personalities, functionally or otherwise, will cease to be a factor in our existence.

Where there are individual needs, there are individual differences, competition, envy, etc. Nothing like that could possibly exist in heaven.

570 posted on 03/14/2007 6:50:24 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
Where there are individual needs, there are individual differences, competition, envy, etc. Nothing like that could possibly exist in heaven.

I agree except that I hope there will still be games or friendly competitions in heaven, i.e. without the hurtful pride in winning or resentment in losing. Puzzles, races, crafts - but we'll see.

May God bless you, dear kosta50.

573 posted on 03/14/2007 9:33:03 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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Thus, out personalities, functionally or otherwise, will cease to be a factor in our existence.

Where there are individual needs, there are individual differences, competition, envy, etc. Nothing like that could possibly exist in heaven.
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I strongly disagree. I don't even think that's very Biblical.

God certainly had the capacity to create robots, drones, puppets, clones.

He emphatically did NOT.

Fellowship with a mass of identical 100% transparent clones, robots would not be any kind of fellowship I'd imagine attractive at all--even or especially TO GOD.

Our Heavenly state will, imho, result in our personalities being MUCH MORE US IN MORE WAYS, DEPTHS, BREADTHS, INTENSITIES than we can here imagine.

Roland Buck's Heavenly visit as well as a host of others--emphatically describe individuals who are "known as they are known" in a much richer and freer expression of their personalities than was possible on earth. AND GOD IS MORE GLORIFIED through their personalities than would otherwise be the case had their personalities been obliterated.

I don't understand why this is so hard to grasp.

You make it sound like every last shred of any hint of our personalities is from hell to be banished to hell ASAP and obliterated for ever more.

NOT SO! OUR PERSONALITIES COME FROM GOD! AND HE DOES ALL THINGS WELL.

I imagine . . . all the saints have Heavenly bodies and are in their perfected 100% transparent; total personality obliteration states. Our Heavenly Father comes into the Marriage Supper of The Lamb.

First thing out of His mouth--WHERE IS EVERYONE??? Why aren't the chairs filled with those I've been so eager to fellowship with at this table? Why is everything homogeneous white everywhere I look? Where's all those rich wonderful personalities I so carefully constructed and my Son died for at such infinite cost? WHERE ARE THEY!?!

GOD CREATED US WITH

INDIVIDUAL NEEDS. Partly so He could enjoy MEETING THEM! Have none of you had any children or emotionally adopted children? Those of you who have certainly have experienced one of the greatest joys in mortal life--to meet the needs of one's children in loving fun, creative ways.

So you think God is going to rob Himself of such pleasures? Hogwash.

I'll go on trusting the Biblical foundation for personality as well as those saints who've visited Heaven and returned to tell about it. Such as Roland Buck:

http://www.angelsonassignment.org/index2.html

Folks who demonstrate no evidence of any such Heavenly visits and less evidence of understanding Biblical principles about personality will not likely get a shred of my sympathy or concurence on such notions as obliteration of personality in our Heavenly state.


575 posted on 03/14/2007 9:55:41 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY, HIM & HIS KINGDOM 1ST)
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