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To: Forest Keeper; annalex; Kolokotronis; kawaii
The act of attempted hiding from God is itself sin, and God does not program anyone to commit sin. Gen. 3:8-10 also shows us that shame comes from sin, and that it is futile to try to hide from God

Then to sin is our choice. And to repent isn't?

According to Protestant theology, repentance is God-given. That means Adam did not repent because God didn't want him to repent.

In other words, God is behind Adam's pride. Don't you see, FK, this theology puts the blame on God and not on man?

1,110 posted on 04/23/2007 6:16:49 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; annalex; Kolokotronis; kawaii
Then to sin is our choice. And to repent isn't?

We need no help at all to sin, so that is "closer" to the normal human idea of free will choice.

According to Protestant theology, repentance is God-given. That means Adam did not repent because God didn't want him to repent.

Perhaps not immediately, but I thought we both think he repented LATER. I would say he received saving grace later. As I understand your belief, Jesus went and snatched him out of Hades, thus proving that Adam did repent at some point. That was just a timing issue for God's purposes. Once the sin was committed though, the deed was done and could not have been undone, as if it never happened. At that instant, he needed saving, regardless of when he repented (assuming he was saved).

In other words, God is behind Adam's pride. Don't you see, FK, this theology puts the blame on God and not on man?

God is behind God's plan, not Adam's pride. God had His reasons for delaying the inevitable. He does the same with many of His elect, since many are not saved at the instant we reach the age of reason (like me). This is perfectly normal and common.

1,119 posted on 04/30/2007 5:19:31 PM PDT by Forest Keeper
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